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good evening ladies and gentlemen

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welcome to the program I am your host

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Chris George zuker and you have entered

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the den of lore pull your chair up to

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the fire grab yourselves a glass of

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scotch because we're gonna learn some

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cool [\h__\h] tonight courtesy of some

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returning guests whom you all know and

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love brucer Fenton and daniella Fenton

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are joining us in the den today to

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answer the question answer the question

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our ancient our ancient aliens

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companions confirmed and you know and

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Shannel I can't wait to find out wait to

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find out

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first thing first thing that I need to

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get out of eleven eating out of the way

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den the den our guest for tonight our

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guest for tonight and I believe like the

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one guest ascetical on your side is he

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coming back here that I can hear myself

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ee-ah no you're a sign actually here

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sign actually hmm just want to make sure

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I want to make sure it's a bit weird

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we're not hearing it one second hey let

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me turn that down and we're good I

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believe I turn that there we go the one

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benefit to not having a producer is well

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I can actually access the mixing board

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right sure yeah oh well again I wanted

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to thank you very much for joining us I

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know you've been very patient as we all

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know the running joke with this program

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is it never starts on time but we always

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have a rip-roaring fantastic time

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beforehand and we get to spend some time

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and I can't come down there to visit you

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myself and I feel bad about that because

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Bruce you're probably one of the coolest

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people i know and you've been such a

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good sport and now we get to spend some

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time also with you and your lovely wife

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whom you two have written a book which

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is out very very very soon I mean two

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weeks and it will be available at hybrid

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humans dotnet it is hybrid humans and I

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just want to make sure I get the full

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Harvard humans the scientific evidence

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of our eight thousand year old alien 800

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800 damn it damn it eight hundred

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thousand year old alien legacy in embers

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that went the last time you were on the

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show you had dropped some hints that's

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you had some groundbreaking revelatory

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news on the ancient alien field or as a

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field of study as it were and you being

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a researcher who is very highly regarded

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your last book had it forward by none

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other than Graham Hancock who is a

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personal hero of mine and you don't you

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don't get that kind of accolades or that

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kind of support if you don't have some

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good research chops behind you and I

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know when you mentioned this that's well

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I said okay he probably has something

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that isn't [\h__\h] I'm guessing there's

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no reptilian aliens that are mining

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modern atomic gold and rocket ships that

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are coming down here to have sex with

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it will be a bit better supported than

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perhaps and pretty much not quite as I

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don't know it's much made-up sounding I

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guess I guess we'll see we'll see what

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people think well and I'm just all so

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next time now Danijela we've we've we

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know Bruce we know him pretty well we

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got a pretty colorful explanation of

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Ladin a show from him the last time

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which was absolutely fantastic with you

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in the room I know we have to be a

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little more proper so again please do do

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do forgive anything

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that tends to slip out what we do here

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okay now tell us a little bit about

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yourself because you are actually a

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medium and while we were prepping for

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the show you were finding some very

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interesting things around the room here

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that kind of freaked me out and make me

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afraid to be doing this show because

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apparently my dead next-door neighbor

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god rest her soul who actually tried to

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kill Coco the first day we moved in here

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with a Reiki no less she died about a

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year ago she like right there well she

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was a bit further back sort of towards

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the curtain where the light comes in

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from behind the curtain and I saw her

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silhouette and she was just moving

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around listening to you as we were

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prepping for the show and very clearly

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got an image of you know what she would

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have physically looked like and she was

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just sort of hanging around so I was

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pretty interesting you know no she

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doesn't

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absolutely not she's quite different now

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here I felt that her energy was very

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different to what it would have been

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when she was alive uh while you were

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seeing that I actually had a chill up my

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neck like somebody was doing you know

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that it's cold in here now actually just

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likes to know you know she's there you

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know now now at least I know that I've

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got somebody who can who can wake me up

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when I fall asleep on my desk yeah she's

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just there and you know can can't ask

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her to help you out and the place which

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after which after you guys and them can

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you graphic design no I'll teach you

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don't worry just knowledge men now how

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long have you been how long have you

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been a medium well you both well you

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know all these strange stuff I guess so

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this phenomena man Wow since I can

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remember basically since I was little I

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mean I have over recollections of you

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know being in my

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cotton sort of seen things and having

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out-of-body experiences and astral

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travel and flying around the room and

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remember looking down and you know still

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being in a nappy so I mean this has been

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happening on my life it's not been

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something that you know has sort of just

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started suddenly it's it's always been

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there specialized mediumship recently

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recently yes I was doing more psychic

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work doing readings and also went into

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shamanism that I picked up in Ecuador

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while we were living in South America

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and prior to that I was doing our horse

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brokerage business from Spain so what a

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diverse person doing my work diversity

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is the spice of life I think for your

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horse

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brokerage that's a field of study that I

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actually know existed I do have some

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some equestrian friends and one of my

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cousin's has been a rider since she was

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a teenager so you know anybody who has

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the ability to do that and can commune

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and you know just can relate to these

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magnificent animals and and notice how

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they how they feel and actually do have

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the emotions of you know most humans

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that most people may not recognize that

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it's you you're probably very good at it

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especially if you have a very strong

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empathic abilities yeah I found that

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that helped I found that that was part

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of what drove me to get closer to this

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on a professional level because it used

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to be my hobby as a child or was I was

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writing since about 7 years old and I

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always wanted to be around horses always

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wanted to work with horses I wanted to

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be a vet originally but so many changes

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in my life and traveling with my parents

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and coming and going from Australia

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South America and just moving around

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quite a bit didn't allow that to happen

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so when I finally went to Spain in 2004

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I thought well you know it's a it's a

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very like horse orientated country

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especially where I was living in the

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South in Andalusia and I thought well

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what can I do here I said I looked into

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it and sort of got into it that way so I

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started my own brokerage just added my

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own websites you made contacts with

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people there spend

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horses Luciano horses and then the

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passion came for the Friesians from

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Holland and that's where I sort of hit

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the hardest yeah and I mean yes and how

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did it seems like a very interesting

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jump going from let's say the horse

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brokering Friesians to being a medium to

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writing about ancient aliens

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especially with whom's you know somebody

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who's had is your husband who is also

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considered yeah you know the

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up-and-coming alternative or you know

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I'm not going to say alternative because

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independent researchers on the planet

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right now sort of connecting with Bruce

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in and and meeting Bruce and then

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physically you know we met online many

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many years ago but we hadn't actually

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met physically and when we finally did

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in 2012 that's when everything just went

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bang because I don't know if it was like

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a cosmic plan I guess it was I put it

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down to them or Bruce's fault but us

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coming together just made that explode

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because it just it totally took me in a

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different path and it sort of brought

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out that inner part of me that was sort

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of lying a little bit dormant with the

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mediumship and then sort of getting into

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the shamanism and then getting into the

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book writing because it wasn't a book

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writing is not my it's not my strong

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point I guess and I'm quite a shy person

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by Nature

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because of all the things that have

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happened you know just so many to

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mention

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I suppose I mean I mean with the jump

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was in 2012

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where we saw Isaac Lee Matt and then it

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was it was very early in 2012 that Danny

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start having experiences this

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specifically involved what seemed to be

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et isn't now I mean that's fair to say

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that's I mean that's where the jump was

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I mean I guess he's between the

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phenomena of mediumship psychic stuff

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you know but then it took on really a

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turn which involved what yeah I seem to

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be et

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that's just too so you know not to take

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over there but that's where I see that

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changing no are we are we talking again

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for anybody out there who has heard me

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rank on UFOs you apologists UFO tainment

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it's not I do not have not I do not not

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have a belief in ET or a lack of belief

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in UFOs I've seen UFOs myself I

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definitely do believe in the possibility

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of aliens I do believe they may be

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visiting I do believe that people may be

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getting abducted I just don't believe

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that there you know are underground

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bases that are communing with blue

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chickens and talk to a guy who's a

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time-traveling Space Marine I make that

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joke every single episode it's for a

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reason tool to demonstrate [\h__\h] you

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know I think that goes to any subject

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and and that's the thing like so so

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didn't you you you've had experiences

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can you at least describe the nature is

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it's like is is it's my first like real

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et contact happened when I was with my

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dad back just before 2000 it was like

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probably in 1999 roughly we were driving

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pretty close to Sydney Airport and our

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Airport in Sydney is on the bay Botany

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Bay and the runway goes out into the

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ocean into the water and so we were

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about I guess just several hundred

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meters about to cross the airport tunnel

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which you have to drive under and come

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out on the other side to continue your

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route so the plane sort of fly over you

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when there was a sort of traffic jam and

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it was really strange because people

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were like getting out of the cars we

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actually thought that there were as an

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accident and we're talking about three

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or four lanes going one way three or

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four lanes going the other way and all

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the cars had stopped on both sides we

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thought this is weird

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so you know pretty much did what

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everyone else was doing sort of stop the

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car have a look got out and there were

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these three lights on top of the I guess

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the control tower and they were in it

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like a shape of a triangle like they

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were forming a triangle so the one there

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and then two down here I was

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like dad you've got to see this so he

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got out he looked up and he's like what

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the hell is that I said do you think you

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know could it be he's like get back in

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the car it was like straight away get

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back in the car

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but everybody was out the police

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eventually came and started moving the

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cars along and we noticed that one of

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these things just went and it took off

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so quickly we couldn't see where it went

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like in a millisecond it was gone then

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the other one was gone in another

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direction and there was just one left

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hovering on top of the airport well the

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traffic began moving police sorta like

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cleared everyone out

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nobody wanted to move we're all just

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looking so we're driving along and we

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noticed that this one light that looked

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to us or like when I looked up properly

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it look like a triangle which is sort of

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like flying on top of our car it

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followed us for a good 15 minutes until

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we lost it basically in a road that's

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covered by trees so it's sort of like in

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that kind of shape but the whole time

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every time we took a turn this thing was

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on top of us and my dad eventually said

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to me you know this has got to be

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something that I've seen before as a

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child my dad grew up in Ecuador in the

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jungle and he used to see this kind of

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thing all the time and I was like keen

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to get out of the car as trying to sit

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you know with my body half hanging out

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trying to see these thing and he was

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like don't just don't

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and the car was sort of like acting up

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we were like try and listen to music at

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the same time radio wasn't working the

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car was like it was like he was gonna

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fail it was gonna stop and my dad and I

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was and I was the one that actually

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started to get scared so my dad started

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panicking and I said go up this road

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because it's covered with trees and

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whatever it is it will just have to go

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because there's no way it can physically

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come down on us and that's what we did

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but it followed us for a good 15 minutes

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and that experience it was like well I

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mean there's nothing like that being

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followed physically by a craft that you

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cannot describe no sound no birds no

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nothing it was just and it sounded it

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sounded sort of like a bit like a vacuum

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but it was very low it was like a

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humming sound and when we and we're

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talking about a time

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the year it would have been close to

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summer I don't remember the exact month

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but um it wasn't cold it wasn't hot so I

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had like we had the windows down I

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remember like when we stopped the car

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you couldn't hear a single thing there

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was nothing it was like everything was

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dead there was no noise and then

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eventually it went but every time we

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took a turn this thing was like right

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over our car and I was like flipping out

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and my dad was like just don't get out

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of the car because I've seen this I've

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been followed by these things since he

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was 15 years old he has seen this over

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and over again and that was my first

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experience with them you know I know

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that there are some people who claim

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that the you know the the phenomena for

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abductions is hereditary so you know

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that they'll say like okay well my

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mother had experiences and I had

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experiences and you know it essentially

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they they follow they're supposed to

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follow a family line at least this is

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something that my mother's told me and

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only her and I have discussed it a lot

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it's you know I've seen UFOs since I was

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a kid my mom seen quite a few but she

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she always says it's like wall up like

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we see them because they're just around

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and we pay attention to this we look up

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at the sky

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yeah but she's always told me like oh

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you know like you know like we've we've

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never had a history of this in our

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family and I'm sitting there going you

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know we have mom and here's bullshitting

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me and like help me out here yeah like I

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never had anything that's scary as far

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as experiences yeah I was excited but I

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was scared and my dad was like just

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don't get out of the cars like just yeah

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he told me about another full day like

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saying he had yeah in the town he's from

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could I'm bathro in Ecuador and he said

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you know many years ago decades ago but

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he said yeah he was in the town center

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and that you know there was a lot of

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people and he said that this craft like

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more like a saucer like one not a

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triangle he said he was like just

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hovering high above the Cathedral that

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was in the center of the town he said no

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see there was like quite a lot of people

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they were looking up it was just these

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things he was just hovering there so so

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he has that like you know other I'd say

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like daylight full you know witnessed

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yeah

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sighing so he does seem like you know

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that there's a family kind of connect he

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doesn't really talk about it much stuff

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he hasn't told her he's like - I think

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that they've always been a bit against

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Danny's like some intuitive psychic kind

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of stuff

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oh yeah so there's always a load of

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rubbish but then there was secretly say

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stuff like oh yeah I've had all these

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things happen you know you're like hang

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on but you were saying that she's you

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know and then we made this until to me

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it's like I had this and that's not very

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fair to talk about it it wasn't talked

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about and since I was very young

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anything that I saw is being strange

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like mediumship and you know things that

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was trying to understand and put the

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pieces of the puzzle together it was

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always frowned upon and my mum was very

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strict about that kind of stuff so my

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dad didn't talk about it I mean he

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hardly ever spoke about these things it

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was only that when we had that sighting

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where I was with my father there he said

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to me you're not happy several times

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just don't get it good because this is

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freaky enough you know yeah and if

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anyone wonders if she comes from like a

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hippy New Age background I can only tell

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you know we're very far from very far so

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they're very extreme more towards the

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fascist dictatorship than the new inks

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family but what's well you want if I ask

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what your background is

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oh my um well my dad's from Ecuador um

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so he's got in indigenous Ecuadorian and

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Spanish and my mother she's some

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Austrian and her background is German

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French and they've got Romanian so a bit

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of a mix there yeah okay she grew up in

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Chile and yes you grew up in Chile after

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the Second World War and they migrated

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to South America and yeah I was born in

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Australia and my parents met in

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Australia oh and you know for anybody

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who came out of Europe Australia is

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always the the second choice and with a

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lot of Croatians during the 90s like

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well the 70s a lot of them went to

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Canada and that's that's why I'm here

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and during the 90s in the war a lot of

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people went to Australia cuz they're

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like oh we had a choice between Canada

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and Australia we took the big spiders

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not the snow because it's not to do with

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that and the the stories that can

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sometimes come out of out of you know

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more of the remote villages they may not

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have had or even like the larger towns

519
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that let's say had hundreds of thousands

520
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of people and not you know tens upon

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millions of people you tend to get a lot

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more interesting stories out of those

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because the population is still in a

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much more condensed space usually the

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individuals and I'm not gonna say it's

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it's something that's not a Canadian

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thing cuz like Canadians are pretty

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friendly at the same time we're very

529
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nuclear we don't you should go outside

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of her bubble you know where's like in

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Europe back in my parents village

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everybody knew everybody you know the

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original big brother was here you're the

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moms watching outside of the the window

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to see what the kids were doing then go

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back and tell their mom after it's and

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said I saw your kid cause and [\h__\h] and

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then you know I might I would come home

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and then well exactly so there was

540
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:03,399
there's a certain level of distrust but

541
00:23:06,329 --> 00:23:04,690
at the same time still that level of

542
00:23:09,419 --> 00:23:06,339
trust and if people see things they're

543
00:23:13,529 --> 00:23:09,429
gonna it holds a little more validity to

544
00:23:14,999 --> 00:23:13,539
to certain stories unless you're talking

545
00:23:16,739 --> 00:23:15,009
about outside sources but you're

546
00:23:18,059 --> 00:23:16,749
actually you know a source that's

547
00:23:20,609 --> 00:23:18,069
descended from a source that's that's

548
00:23:23,339 --> 00:23:20,619
coming from one of these these areas so

549
00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:23,349
in that holds a much higher regard or at

550
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:25,289
least a chance of it actually being true

551
00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:29,679
which blows my mind and you know and on

552
00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:31,629
the other stuff as well before she found

553
00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:32,230
out her

554
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:34,540
grandmother used to do so healings and

555
00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:36,730
clearings and things as well so so on

556
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:38,470
that side as well you know that I guess

557
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:41,110
the intuitive psychic kind of side you

558
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:42,850
know that they seems to be a history in

559
00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:45,490
the family as well so so I guess you

560
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,350
have both the weird experiences and the

561
00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:49,360
kind of the energetic stuff both are in

562
00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:52,390
the family from what we can gather so

563
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,620
yeah they seem there's something with

564
00:23:58,380 --> 00:23:55,840
the other thing about bloodlines you

565
00:23:59,970 --> 00:23:58,390
know like how things seem to pass down

566
00:24:04,680 --> 00:23:59,980
and also experiences you know the

567
00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:04,690
ability to experience I guess now for

568
00:24:09,210 --> 00:24:07,270
for this particular book or the basis of

569
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:09,220
how it got started

570
00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:11,530
have you always wanted to write the book

571
00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:13,480
yourself or where's there something that

572
00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:17,160
compelled you to to start it the

573
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:19,720
journeys pushed you to explain there's a

574
00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:21,730
little bit well you know one experience

575
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:23,559
after the other and I just said to Bruce

576
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:25,510
because he had just finished his um his

577
00:24:31,140 --> 00:24:29,320
last book and I said to him you know I

578
00:24:33,270 --> 00:24:31,150
think it's time to sort of start talking

579
00:24:34,860 --> 00:24:33,280
about this kind of thing because I feel

580
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:34,870
it's gonna start happening more and more

581
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,370
and more and more people are gonna start

582
00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:38,559
to experience things and I think we're

583
00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:40,390
getting to a time where it's it's it's

584
00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:44,169
it felt right and obviously Bruce had a

585
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:46,120
lot of research I had the experiences

586
00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:48,490
one after the other a little bit about

587
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:49,780
their experiences because you didn't

588
00:24:54,270 --> 00:24:52,090
specifically say about no well that was

589
00:24:58,620 --> 00:24:54,280
the more harrowing when I had a full

590
00:25:00,980 --> 00:24:58,630
year of I don't even know if it's

591
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:00,990
abduction if it's time travel if it's I

592
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:03,850
don't know what to what title to put on

593
00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:05,650
I guess the closest thing is shamanic

594
00:25:12,810 --> 00:25:09,070
journeys of a very strange eg saw yeah I

595
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:12,820
mean idea we had basically left Spain

596
00:25:21,539 --> 00:25:18,010
together and migrated to Ecuador in late

597
00:25:23,159 --> 00:25:21,549
January 2012 and in pretty much world

598
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:23,169
within the week of us it wasn't done

599
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,760
that we got to four or five days after

600
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,520
we got there we um we originally arrived

601
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:29,200
at my parents apartment in Quito and

602
00:25:35,549 --> 00:25:31,510
then um we went to a battle where we

603
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:35,559
were gonna stay at our house and we were

604
00:25:46,659 --> 00:25:44,350
we were having a few drinks we were just

605
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:46,669
sort of chilling and talking and and I

606
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:48,110
wasn't feeling very well so I was like

607
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:51,770
I'm going off to bed went to bed posh

608
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:53,809
died being worried yes ghost I feel

609
00:25:58,060 --> 00:25:56,510
worse and worse until I passed out I

610
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:58,070
mean literally I thought she liked me

611
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:00,559
she sensed them I really thought she was

612
00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:03,049
seriously ill I mean you know she look

613
00:26:14,769 --> 00:26:12,279
know something was off and and and

614
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:14,779
eventually I mean what I remember he

615
00:26:17,529 --> 00:26:16,460
says you know yeah I was having pain

616
00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:17,539
good are you in pain

617
00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:19,340
yeah I just remember passing out

618
00:26:23,889 --> 00:26:21,230
basically and the next thing I know that

619
00:26:25,899 --> 00:26:23,899
I'm in this location that I don't

620
00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:25,909
recognize with strange-looking people in

621
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,870
it like a see-through no floor dome in

622
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:31,760
this place and outside the color was a

623
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:35,120
teal color and they're just having this

624
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:36,529
meeting and I'm like what the heck's

625
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,940
going on and I thought I was dreaming

626
00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:40,640
but it felt too real and then I saw

627
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:44,600
wonder if you were dead something had

628
00:26:50,019 --> 00:26:46,850
happened to me at this point because to

629
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,029
get from where I was to that location it

630
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:52,640
felt like my body had been torn to

631
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,710
pieces and every single cell had been

632
00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:56,480
transported through the wall of the

633
00:27:02,560 --> 00:26:59,210
bedroom where I was and then being in

634
00:27:04,409 --> 00:27:02,570
this location part of a meeting with

635
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:04,419
beings that looked really bizarre and

636
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:08,720
really tall and really weird um I'm

637
00:27:14,529 --> 00:27:10,970
gonna ask just able to clarify coming

638
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:14,539
from a European family who my father's

639
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:17,809
side owned several stills and my

640
00:27:23,889 --> 00:27:21,110
mother's side made very fantastic plum

641
00:27:26,649 --> 00:27:23,899
brandy from organic mountain water grown

642
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:26,659
plum trees oh my goodness so fantastic

643
00:27:29,289 --> 00:27:27,740
are you are you

644
00:27:31,779 --> 00:27:29,299
what was this store bought or was this

645
00:27:36,250 --> 00:27:31,789
family made because I know that the

646
00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:36,260
effects of really good pure clean water

647
00:27:42,970 --> 00:27:38,299
alcohol can sometimes be a little

648
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:42,980
different as far as drinking dessert oh

649
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:44,720
my goodness oh my good oh so you know

650
00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:49,279
okay Oh oh god okay then you know you

651
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:52,190
know drink that we weren't drinking much

652
00:28:05,080 --> 00:27:54,190
they don't have that

653
00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:05,090
easy peach 20% kind of I guess it had a

654
00:28:11,650 --> 00:28:06,740
bit of a kick to it but I didn't drink

655
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:11,660
and I don't drink lemonade a sucker yeah

656
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:13,610
so you know it was just really uncommon

657
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:15,670
I was feeling really ill I was feeling

658
00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:18,440
but I mean I remember my take on it is I

659
00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:20,270
had the drinks I went upstairs it must

660
00:28:26,140 --> 00:28:22,190
have been him and then I probably just

661
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:26,150
passed out you know fell asleep and yeah

662
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:30,080
the next morning surprise hit me because

663
00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:31,730
apparently I'd been reciting the hope

664
00:28:36,730 --> 00:28:33,350
you probably you said all this stuff

665
00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:36,740
mumbling like I was listening I was

666
00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:38,750
something sounded kind of familiar like

667
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:41,000
you know stuff about there being like

668
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:45,190
two suns in for the free Suns and

669
00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:48,770
changes yeah I could kind of get you

670
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,790
know because of my background in

671
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:51,200
research that's like some of this sounds

672
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:53,150
kind of like familiar from you know

673
00:28:58,180 --> 00:28:55,850
different texts and prophecies and so I

674
00:28:59,860 --> 00:28:58,190
got no it down as much as I could hear

675
00:29:02,800 --> 00:28:59,870
from her mumbling you know some

676
00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:02,810
unconscious state and then the next day

677
00:29:06,550 --> 00:29:04,160
I saw pastor I said like do you remember

678
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:06,560
I like having any weird dreams or

679
00:29:10,510 --> 00:29:08,480
anything you know while you who are like

680
00:29:12,550 --> 00:29:10,520
house and she said yeah I do remember

681
00:29:15,310 --> 00:29:12,560
actually I you know was at this place

682
00:29:17,950 --> 00:29:15,320
and stuff like you know this weird stuff

683
00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:17,960
here you were saying and I had like a

684
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:22,220
pretty good record she'd said I suppose

685
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:23,930
a bit me my stomach mean but I kind of

686
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:25,940
tested her no [\h__\h] I said what do you

687
00:29:29,230 --> 00:29:27,170
remember I didn't sort of say

688
00:29:31,810 --> 00:29:29,240
straightaway look you said this he said

689
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:31,820
that you know she split up see her side

690
00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:33,650
what what happened you know I don't hear

691
00:29:37,090 --> 00:29:35,000
one side is the conversation if you

692
00:29:39,970 --> 00:29:37,100
could imagine I'm selling anyway she's

693
00:29:42,730 --> 00:29:39,980
basically replying to these non-physical

694
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:42,740
you're not present beings so I'm sure I

695
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:44,410
can only hear what she's replying

696
00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:46,430
but so she explained that yeah that that

697
00:29:51,370 --> 00:29:48,470
she was being asked questions by this

698
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,380
group that were in this experience you

699
00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:53,120
know I've she's young physically gone

700
00:29:58,270 --> 00:29:54,980
anywhere you know she her body was there

701
00:30:00,190 --> 00:29:58,280
so it was purely in a altered state of

702
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:00,200
consciousness type experience but you

703
00:30:04,660 --> 00:30:02,510
know from her perspective you know she

704
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,670
was being asked you know her opinions on

705
00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:07,360
this subject of earth chain

706
00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:10,030
so op cit then filled in a bit on her

707
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:11,350
side what she do you know what they've

708
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:12,640
been saying and I was like well I've got

709
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:14,110
actually written down quite of what you

710
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:15,640
were saying you know and that kind of

711
00:30:18,419 --> 00:30:17,410
makes sense because I can fill in about

712
00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:18,429
what you're saying I asked you you were

713
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:20,260
actually mumbling a lot of this you know

714
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:23,890
in the night and so yeah it kind of was

715
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:27,370
a very strange full-on kind of

716
00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:28,840
experience but then after that you know

717
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:30,700
it start happening but without any of

718
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:33,400
the the cheap alcohol from from the shop

719
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:36,250
so you know whether that initially had

720
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:37,960
any effect at all and you can't say but

721
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,490
yeah after that he just continued

722
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:41,440
without and it was weekly I mean it was

723
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:43,690
like two three four times a week so I

724
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:46,290
mean suffice to say I was waking up

725
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:50,350
feeling so tired and I was you know in

726
00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:52,510
agony because it was a painful process

727
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:54,040
it wasn't like going to sleep and having

728
00:30:59,549 --> 00:30:57,610
a dream I do remember like literally

729
00:31:01,500 --> 00:30:59,559
wrecking my legs kicking the wall trying

730
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:01,510
not to be dragged through whatever

731
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:03,190
barrier was taking me to that other

732
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:06,880
place on one occasion I ended up in a

733
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:09,070
fight with some beans on the other side

734
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:11,679
and when I woke up I had black eyes it's

735
00:31:16,289 --> 00:31:13,510
not straight from being whacked in the

736
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:16,299
face and I remember my daughter coming

737
00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:19,660
into the room thinking that I don't see

738
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:21,880
her head getting twisted I hold her head

739
00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:25,360
because from where she was she would

740
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:27,640
have like a being trying to like twist

741
00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:29,679
her neck and I would like literally

742
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:32,230
holding her head like saying like you

743
00:31:36,299 --> 00:31:33,970
okay come back something you know wake

744
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:36,309
up and like stuff like I'm really weird

745
00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:40,570
you know yet associated phenomena with

746
00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:43,270
it yeah writing on the walls with your

747
00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:45,100
fingers drawing symbols on the walls

748
00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:47,260
while you're unconscious and stuff and

749
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:50,520
yeah it was quite regularly and strange

750
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:54,250
what I recorded quite a few times when

751
00:31:59,700 --> 00:31:55,809
she was speaking in what I believed to

752
00:32:01,680 --> 00:31:59,710
be my own which I have extensive

753
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:01,690
recordings of her but so she seems he's

754
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:03,370
speaking in a language he's never spoken

755
00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:06,010
before and the experiences didn't

756
00:32:15,410 --> 00:32:09,070
involve like my own people so I mean

757
00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:18,630
very strange yeah it's me it was

758
00:32:20,910 --> 00:32:19,900
horrible it was horrible

759
00:32:22,890 --> 00:32:20,920
well this is different than any other

760
00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:22,900
exploit there's a standard that I hear

761
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:24,160
the go I felt like I was taken up

762
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:25,750
through the ceiling and all you know I

763
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:28,990
was on a table and there was these sell

764
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:31,600
myself in Pioneer so somewhere else you

765
00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:33,490
know legiere transferred consciousness

766
00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:35,830
only you know no no no you know there's

767
00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:37,540
no way was a body because I was there

768
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:39,580
you know so if she'd be on her own

769
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:40,960
perhaps you might have fought you know

770
00:32:44,190 --> 00:32:43,120
I've got in my body you know my body's

771
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:44,200
been took out through the wall and

772
00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:46,810
because you don't have anyone to you

773
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:49,240
know to correct you on that you know I

774
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,770
mean pay for somebody else in the room

775
00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:52,000
of something saying well look like no

776
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:53,920
you know your body has been here the

777
00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:55,150
whole time no matter what how real it

778
00:32:58,620 --> 00:32:56,920
feels that your body gone and then

779
00:33:00,270 --> 00:32:58,630
you're in a body somewhere you know I

780
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:00,280
can say well no you your body's

781
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:02,590
physically here I mean you ask questions

782
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:03,610
about some of those people you know

783
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:05,860
maybe if they don't have a witness you

784
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:07,150
know you haven't experienced something

785
00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:08,950
like that you might think your body has

786
00:33:11,850 --> 00:33:11,020
gone you know because nobody's there to

787
00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:11,860
tell you different

788
00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:13,180
and you don't know if you're coming back

789
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:14,980
I mean having these experiences living

790
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:17,380
this other life on the other side in 7th

791
00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:20,170
century polenka in Mexico with Mayans

792
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,940
with hybrids with everyone it was it was

793
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,320
a really harrowing experience because it

794
00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:28,000
was like I was living a life there I was

795
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:29,860
living a life here and I was not resting

796
00:33:34,130 --> 00:33:32,110
in between these two locations and every

797
00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:34,140
time this would happen where I would go

798
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:36,190
I didn't know if I was going to come

799
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:37,570
back I didn't know if I was going to die

800
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:40,000
you know and it was a canoe it was it

801
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:42,190
was a concern and it changed me

802
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:44,230
physically it changed me mentally and

803
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:47,620
spiritually it was a real test for me I

804
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:49,660
found it really heroic we looked for

805
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:53,320
help you know you know there wasn't this

806
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:54,970
kind of stuff and it wasn't happening in

807
00:33:58,050 --> 00:33:56,410
isolation because we had other things

808
00:33:59,700 --> 00:33:58,060
that were probably matter going on in

809
00:34:02,910 --> 00:33:59,710
the day you try I won't go over

810
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:02,920
particular but we had other like I guess

811
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:04,870
spiritual psychical issues that were

812
00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:06,850
going on in that time plus this you know

813
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:08,740
an ongoing disagreement with her parents

814
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:09,970
who were who was sharing the house with

815
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:12,850
her so like it was like a whole stress

816
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:15,580
of like you know phenomena plus

817
00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:17,350
day-to-day problems you know all

818
00:34:23,490 --> 00:34:20,260
condensed it was like eyes and imagine

819
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:23,500
you know feeling like I feel like dying

820
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:25,510
because it's just that is too much yeah

821
00:34:27,790 --> 00:34:26,889
it was very much and getting all this

822
00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:27,800
information and

823
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:29,660
recording and you know and it was just

824
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:31,130
going on and on and went on for a good

825
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:32,810
part of a year and probably just over a

826
00:34:38,020 --> 00:34:36,110
year and then suddenly just stopped I

827
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:38,030
was like thank God because I can't do it

828
00:34:41,650 --> 00:34:40,010
I can't do it you know if it happened

829
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:41,660
like once or twice or three times and I

830
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:43,280
got all this information or download or

831
00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:46,130
whatever fine it was like weekly and it

832
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:47,860
was like you're here now note you're

833
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:50,570
seem to always have a point at all I

834
00:34:54,430 --> 00:34:52,100
would be would say they're channeling or

835
00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:54,440
they go in somewhere information but a

836
00:34:58,420 --> 00:34:56,780
lot of time really seem to have that

837
00:35:00,910 --> 00:34:58,430
kind of point where you'd say you know

838
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:00,920
okay I come back and now I know what

839
00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:03,290
they wanted it was more like yeah well

840
00:35:07,660 --> 00:35:05,750
what was the you know law other time you

841
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,670
couldn't say that there was you know

842
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:09,680
overall yeah she saw things that you can

843
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:11,450
sort of say you know are interesting on

844
00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:14,450
porn but not to validate taking like say

845
00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:17,120
you know fifty journeys for like no I

846
00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:18,980
mean you Stephanie if there's somebody

847
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:20,900
had wanted to see stuff that they could

848
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:22,610
have done it in like a couple of days

849
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:24,970
here in a few days I don't you know

850
00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:27,650
again I think you know if it is an alien

851
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:29,750
phenomena it speaks something to the

852
00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:31,610
fact that aliens really don't think like

853
00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:33,350
us perhaps because we don't know

854
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:35,030
necessary what they wanted her to see

855
00:35:40,510 --> 00:35:37,370
because or why they had to be like that

856
00:35:42,460 --> 00:35:40,520
because you know it did seem extreme I

857
00:35:44,830 --> 00:35:42,470
will say that that you know to have to

858
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:44,840
and trying to function Plus having what

859
00:35:50,110 --> 00:35:47,210
I can of course of spontaneous shamanic

860
00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:50,120
kind of journeys to this other existence

861
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:53,420
or whatever it is you know yeah I don't

862
00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:55,370
know that it was what you know she's

863
00:35:59,530 --> 00:35:56,990
left confused mind left confused so in a

864
00:36:01,960 --> 00:35:59,540
way yeah we hope that this book is kind

865
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:01,970
of what they wanted to do you know and

866
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:03,830
that they then don't really or these

867
00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:05,930
whatever energies it is don't [\h__\h]

868
00:36:09,730 --> 00:36:07,550
really bother her with it because you

869
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:09,740
know if that's what it's prompting is to

870
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:12,890
share stuff about this subject then okay

871
00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:14,630
like fine and I would do that but you

872
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:16,280
shouldn't need yeah like dozens and

873
00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:20,660
dozens of weird like intense kind of you

874
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:22,790
know how body type experiences it seems

875
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:24,290
a bit much so yeah it's a bit different

876
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,370
perhaps to what other people's

877
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:26,720
experience of being until you know in

878
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:30,050
the abduction and even in the sort of

879
00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:31,490
traumatic journeys and past lights you

880
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:35,420
know it crosses all those lines but yeah

881
00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:38,000
it's not as clear-cut as to why you know

882
00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:39,470
people I say okay I had a past life

883
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,060
experience you know I found myself as a

884
00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:42,560
romance

885
00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:44,390
and I got a stub with a sword now I

886
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:46,040
understand why I always have this pain

887
00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:47,810
in my stomach and then the pain goes

888
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:49,880
away because you make that connection on

889
00:36:54,070 --> 00:36:52,310
some psychic or consciousness level you

890
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:54,080
know you're you're holding on to a

891
00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:55,610
painting that existed in the past and

892
00:36:58,900 --> 00:36:57,320
like okay I get that you know I can kind

893
00:37:01,630 --> 00:36:58,910
of get that and that there's that point

894
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,640
you know the loop closes you know where

895
00:37:04,930 --> 00:37:02,960
the people want to believe there's no

896
00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:04,940
past but there are you know if it's just

897
00:37:09,340 --> 00:37:06,920
something in your psyche whatever you

898
00:37:10,810 --> 00:37:09,350
know that the loop closes and that pain

899
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:10,820
goes so you understand there was a point

900
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,000
to that that experience and again like

901
00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:15,680
with shamanic journey usually it's going

902
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:18,830
to find a solution to to heal something

903
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:20,810
or learn something you know there's a

904
00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:23,570
very clear objective and even with the

905
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:25,550
the abduction experience it's usually do

906
00:37:30,130 --> 00:37:27,380
gamers want to show them a video of

907
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:30,140
future events or or they want to tell

908
00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:32,090
you that you know you should be doing

909
00:37:35,950 --> 00:37:34,340
this in your life or they take some you

910
00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:35,960
know they seem to be taking your your

911
00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:38,350
DNA or you know again you see there's

912
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:41,030
something clear in why it's happening

913
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:42,980
you know and like Danny's experiences

914
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:45,610
yeah that there isn't always that and

915
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:51,410
yeah one pregnancy that just suddenly

916
00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:54,170
the baby disappeared mm-hmm I went for a

917
00:37:59,260 --> 00:37:56,780
scan strange the lady doing the scan

918
00:38:01,090 --> 00:37:59,270
said to me I see where it was but where

919
00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:01,100
is it now like it's literally being

920
00:38:09,340 --> 00:38:06,230
plucked from you how long ago was along

921
00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:09,350
was it that was back in 2012 all of that

922
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:12,200
one Oh God that particular experience I

923
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,020
think that was 20 yeah it was 2012 yeah

924
00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:20,480
all the main weirdness elderly it was

925
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:21,830
that was that within the first the first

926
00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:27,050
month or was that yeah yep

927
00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:28,790
and then it was weird like photo like

928
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:31,220
faces like in this look like faces in

929
00:38:36,220 --> 00:38:33,890
the scam yeah like you know there's one

930
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:36,230
looks a bit like a Jaguar and the other

931
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:38,090
one looks like a kind of like a Mayan

932
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:40,370
guy in profile like in the scan of her

933
00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:43,010
womb I mean so you know see we have that

934
00:38:47,470 --> 00:38:45,260
I mean you know if privately we can free

935
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:47,480
show you that but there yeah really

936
00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:49,340
strange other stuff that would link in

937
00:38:54,010 --> 00:38:52,460
you know and it's like what you know

938
00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:54,020
like the woman at he's saying he's

939
00:38:56,410 --> 00:38:54,950
anything odd going on

940
00:38:57,790 --> 00:38:56,420
look at the scan looking at these like

941
00:39:00,220 --> 00:38:57,800
silhouettes it's like there anything

942
00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:00,230
strange going on you know

943
00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:02,270
without wanting to seem to say in

944
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:04,280
Ecuador keep in mind that you know

945
00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:06,020
there's a very different mindset you

946
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,660
know and go into a shaman or a healer

947
00:39:12,339 --> 00:39:10,400
it's like it's quite normal

948
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,349
so and also there's an acceptance of

949
00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:14,480
psychic or magical phenomena that you

950
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:16,040
wouldn't have you went to a doctor in

951
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:19,520
the US or Canada Australia you know so I

952
00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:21,980
mean there as you saw looking at it and

953
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:23,270
Oxley there thinking well that looks

954
00:39:27,849 --> 00:39:24,920
pretty [\h__\h] weird you like if you're

955
00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:27,859
going to fit going on you know so there

956
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:29,030
was stuff like that that you're

957
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:31,690
associated strange phenomena I mean this

958
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:33,650
doughnut although there's a lot of side

959
00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:36,290
story beyond the aim is that we had a

960
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,820
lot stuff going on I just a psychic or

961
00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:39,680
paranoid phenomena going on for the

962
00:39:44,740 --> 00:39:41,630
whole of 2012 that didn't all connect to

963
00:39:46,930 --> 00:39:44,750
that these events but just a whole

964
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:46,940
wealth of experiences and that the book

965
00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:50,300
itself again we're talking about a neat

966
00:39:55,450 --> 00:39:54,260
her thousand year history now again if

967
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,460
you want to go by

968
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Zecharia Sitchin's numbers and if

969
00:40:00,760 --> 00:39:59,210
anybody in in the youtube chatter and

970
00:40:04,780 --> 00:40:00,770
any chat wants to correct me on the

971
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:04,790
timeline we're talking what's I think

972
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:06,010
they'd like given like a hot good

973
00:40:11,530 --> 00:40:07,910
600,000 years or at least something was

974
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:11,540
150 G's the day I've seen okay you times

975
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:13,730
I was an interview with him in New York

976
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:15,650
and in that interview he says to the

977
00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:18,470
journalist it's 450,000 years ago so I

978
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:19,940
can't say I've read all his books so I

979
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:22,400
mean I assume that's the day he uses in

980
00:40:30,970 --> 00:40:26,050
the books and this is obviously a much

981
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:30,980
say longer timeline I'm trying to think

982
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:32,569
of the best way because I I know that

983
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:34,430
there were if anybody knows my schedule

984
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:36,530
or if anybody the listeners who have

985
00:40:39,819 --> 00:40:38,270
been following the show you know what I

986
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:39,829
go through have been going through on a

987
00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:41,240
weekly basis since the beginning of

988
00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:43,790
January 20 hour days six days a week

989
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:48,589
gotta love it like well you guys are

990
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:51,410
parents you know you know it's difficult

991
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:54,290
very young she's sleeping on her own

992
00:41:01,210 --> 00:40:58,490
finally we can put her down and she

993
00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:01,220
stays asleep I'm happy it's getting

994
00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:04,520
there finally I'm okay good but you know

995
00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:08,150
the the idea to to review notes I'm like

996
00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:08,750
okay well

997
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:10,040
able to come in fresh with this I'm like

998
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:12,050
okay well now how do I start with the

999
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:14,200
entire process and I'm gonna start with

1000
00:41:19,780 --> 00:41:17,690
today well the day the date itself is

1001
00:41:22,330 --> 00:41:19,790
800,000 years ago and we discussed on

1002
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,340
the last show Bruce the the timeline for

1003
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,280
human migration how you be able to

1004
00:41:28,990 --> 00:41:26,720
bridge the - for anybody who comes in

1005
00:41:31,210 --> 00:41:29,000
here and says okay well there are 45

1006
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:31,220
minutes into this in this interview and

1007
00:41:35,350 --> 00:41:32,750
I say okay where do you start start

1008
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:35,360
start at that at that point and you know

1009
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,520
it's like we closed the last one off and

1010
00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:39,200
all of a sudden you know you're there

1011
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:42,380
now and bridging the two is there any

1012
00:41:47,110 --> 00:41:45,200
link between your work and the work that

1013
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:47,120
we are going to see in this upcoming

1014
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:49,730
book yeah there is I mean that's why you

1015
00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:53,270
know see Danny wanted to have me do the

1016
00:41:58,900 --> 00:41:56,030
main scientific research you know so

1017
00:42:00,220 --> 00:41:58,910
she's sort of narrating that journey and

1018
00:42:03,550 --> 00:42:00,230
talking a little bit about some of her

1019
00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:03,560
related experiences but the body of

1020
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:05,480
research a lot of it yet does come out

1021
00:42:09,310 --> 00:42:07,910
of existing stuff I've done for my other

1022
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:09,320
book you know so obviously I had an

1023
00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:13,010
awareness of the latest papers you know

1024
00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:14,990
on human origins and evolution genetics

1025
00:42:20,350 --> 00:42:17,660
you know so we didn't have to go into it

1026
00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:20,360
like from scratch and say like okay now

1027
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:22,190
let's look for evidence of aliens and

1028
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:24,050
let's see when humans appeared and you

1029
00:42:27,340 --> 00:42:25,310
know is there any fiddling around you

1030
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:27,350
know so yeah it means it yeah there was

1031
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:28,730
that overlap and I already had those

1032
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:30,770
notes so to speak you know where I could

1033
00:42:34,570 --> 00:42:32,210
just go back and say well i yeah i have

1034
00:42:37,810 --> 00:42:34,580
seen anomaly he's already like let's see

1035
00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:37,820
if this all fits together so yeah it

1036
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:40,190
does overlap the dates you know in some

1037
00:42:45,370 --> 00:42:42,890
cases overlap as well particularly that

1038
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:45,380
date you've mentioned now for from that

1039
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,690
from that date I'm not sure if any point

1040
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:50,000
if they had pointed you or list from

1041
00:42:53,590 --> 00:42:51,230
from these downloads that what you were

1042
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:53,600
getting um do you know where the

1043
00:42:57,610 --> 00:42:55,070
downloads were coming from was this

1044
00:42:59,050 --> 00:42:57,620
wasn't that it was more interdimensional

1045
00:43:01,720 --> 00:42:59,060
or do you think it was more

1046
00:43:03,850 --> 00:43:01,730
extraterrestrial in nature how do you

1047
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:03,860
how would you so put it I mean it's hard

1048
00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:06,050
to say I think I think a bit of a blend

1049
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:08,030
of both yeah obviously there's

1050
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:10,310
time-travel involved in it obviously

1051
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:13,490
whatever was going on at that point was

1052
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:15,710
the point in time where again things

1053
00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:17,870
were changing there was like hybrids

1054
00:43:21,540 --> 00:43:19,580
coming out of the city they were

1055
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:21,550
creating a different type of

1056
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:23,530
I guess warrior because they were

1057
00:43:28,290 --> 00:43:25,420
talking about you know 7th century

1058
00:43:30,450 --> 00:43:28,300
Mexico when they're you know in in pure

1059
00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:30,460
battle mode and there's this need for

1060
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:32,500
you know forefoot Mayans to be taller

1061
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:36,160
stronger faster more intelligent messing

1062
00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:37,930
around with yeah they were messing about

1063
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:41,140
there were underground labs there were

1064
00:43:46,110 --> 00:43:43,330
things that were going on at that time

1065
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:46,120
that I saw when I was going back to that

1066
00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:49,090
time that I thought was strange and I

1067
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:51,100
thought right and with my conversations

1068
00:43:55,410 --> 00:43:53,890
with characters of that time they were

1069
00:43:57,690 --> 00:43:55,420
explaining to me that this has been

1070
00:44:00,270 --> 00:43:57,700
happening all the time that things go in

1071
00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:00,280
cycles that you know this is not a new

1072
00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:04,840
thing it wasn't just that they were

1073
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:07,000
strange in themselves yeah she says you

1074
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:07,990
know there's a lot that she's told me

1075
00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:10,270
that is directly seeing beings they're a

1076
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:13,390
nonhuman yeah or they're modified humans

1077
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:16,750
yeah and it don't tie straight into that

1078
00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:19,060
yeah aliens as well which which sounds

1079
00:44:25,290 --> 00:44:22,750
very similar to to Van Denikin's yeah

1080
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:25,300
I'm a useful books so yeah sure I mean

1081
00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:27,250
it does it does link with I mean I used

1082
00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:29,740
to run a website 2012 rising calm and I

1083
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:31,000
you know as though it was more with the

1084
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:33,370
fire okay yeah I used to and I run it

1085
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:35,650
for seven years I was very much involved

1086
00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:37,450
with the Mayan calendar topic and

1087
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:40,600
obviously very familiar with with the

1088
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:43,030
subject of Mayans and Palenque and and

1089
00:44:48,090 --> 00:44:46,090
all of that everything to do with it and

1090
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:48,100
you know I had an experience before I

1091
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:50,290
met Danny in back in 2002 the reason why

1092
00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:53,170
I ran 2012 rising calm which some people

1093
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:54,670
may have known during that period you

1094
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:57,190
know he's a fairly popular blog why as

1095
00:45:00,180 --> 00:44:58,420
you go into that because I had an

1096
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:00,190
experience back a bit like hers I was on

1097
00:45:04,350 --> 00:45:02,110
I was on in a chat room for a

1098
00:45:07,650 --> 00:45:04,360
spiritualist organization called half an

1099
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:07,660
eco ed which is the mr. UK spiritualists

1100
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:09,370
they have a National spiritualist Union

1101
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:11,380
there's a website I was on there talking

1102
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:13,000
to him someone else about psychic things

1103
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:14,890
I was going from own spiritual awakening

1104
00:45:18,030 --> 00:45:15,970
I suppose you'd call it and psychic

1105
00:45:20,370 --> 00:45:18,040
awakening so I used to talk to people in

1106
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:20,380
the chatroom there and one day literally

1107
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:21,610
I was talking to this girl with Tracy

1108
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:24,250
and then suddenly bang I was out of my

1109
00:45:28,890 --> 00:45:26,410
body I was flying through the air over a

1110
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:28,900
jungle ahead of me was a white stepped

1111
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:30,610
pyramid and this was what absolutely

1112
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:33,520
vivid you know totally immersive I guess

1113
00:45:38,410 --> 00:45:35,089
you call full VR you know

1114
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:38,420
was flying towards this thing and then I

1115
00:45:41,950 --> 00:45:39,650
could see a guy on top of the pyramid

1116
00:45:44,349 --> 00:45:41,960
you know and he was like in like I guess

1117
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:44,359
yeah skimpy my old clothes I mean I

1118
00:45:47,709 --> 00:45:46,130
didn't know the time it was Mexican Maya

1119
00:45:50,259 --> 00:45:47,719
you know I just knew it's like weird you

1120
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,269
know papi Mesoamerican looking situation

1121
00:45:53,979 --> 00:45:52,640
the guy was doing stuff I sensed that

1122
00:45:55,299 --> 00:45:53,989
there was like a secret tunnel in the

1123
00:45:58,569 --> 00:45:55,309
top of this building I seem to know

1124
00:46:00,670 --> 00:45:58,579
stuff about it and then I was like back

1125
00:46:01,749 --> 00:46:00,680
you know it's back in my body and I said

1126
00:46:03,279 --> 00:46:01,759
to the woman look I just had the really

1127
00:46:05,499 --> 00:46:03,289
weirdest experience you know just typing

1128
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:05,509
you know the weirdest experience and she

1129
00:46:10,329 --> 00:46:08,089
said I know I was there too and she said

1130
00:46:12,759 --> 00:46:10,339
and and I got the message that this

1131
00:46:15,069 --> 00:46:12,769
experience was for you and also that the

1132
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:15,079
date was 675 AD

1133
00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:17,690
and I was like okay what the [\h__\h] so we

1134
00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:19,430
both you know spontaneous moment being

1135
00:46:22,959 --> 00:46:21,140
chatting in a chat room and I she was

1136
00:46:24,789 --> 00:46:22,969
also like someone involved in psychic

1137
00:46:26,589 --> 00:46:24,799
stuff you know so we both people that

1138
00:46:28,509 --> 00:46:26,599
have had experiences strange experiences

1139
00:46:30,430 --> 00:46:28,519
but not like that and certainly both

1140
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:30,440
found ourselves in this yeah I got a

1141
00:46:34,779 --> 00:46:33,170
full VR you know I don't know you go

1142
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:34,789
there like you're really being taken

1143
00:46:38,469 --> 00:46:36,170
somewhere by aliens or if you're being

1144
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,479
projected a virtual immersive VR into

1145
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:39,920
your head like I can't tell you that

1146
00:46:45,459 --> 00:46:43,249
well he says it's fully immersive and

1147
00:46:46,569 --> 00:46:45,469
that you know that set me on that path

1148
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:46,579
mean the whole reason why I ended up

1149
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:48,529
involved with the Mayan calendar and 22

1150
00:46:51,729 --> 00:46:50,089
a Verizon cotton was that experience

1151
00:46:54,099 --> 00:46:51,739
because I wanted to understand what the

1152
00:46:55,539 --> 00:46:54,109
hell was that about why why the Mayans

1153
00:46:57,489 --> 00:46:55,549
what was going on I knew that you know

1154
00:46:59,529 --> 00:46:57,499
this subject the calendar was bubbling

1155
00:47:02,049 --> 00:46:59,539
in the background and so I became very

1156
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:02,059
involved in that so I had an experience

1157
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,249
a bit like Danny's but long before her

1158
00:47:08,109 --> 00:47:06,079
and so it's kind of funny that when she

1159
00:47:09,849 --> 00:47:08,119
met me that's when he started happening

1160
00:47:13,420 --> 00:47:09,859
to her you know and then it he was like

1161
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:13,430
full-on for her said I won she had lots

1162
00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:16,160
of these experiences so it wasn't the

1163
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:17,390
first time that that particular

1164
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:21,200
phenomena had entered our lives it's

1165
00:47:24,249 --> 00:47:22,880
just at the time we weren't together so

1166
00:47:27,339 --> 00:47:24,259
it is a bit bizarre

1167
00:47:28,809 --> 00:47:27,349
and now the blanks have been filled in a

1168
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:28,819
lot you know and I see my involvement in

1169
00:47:33,219 --> 00:47:30,529
that subjects being filled in a lot as

1170
00:47:34,690 --> 00:47:33,229
to why why they wanted me to do that

1171
00:47:36,989 --> 00:47:34,700
because in the experiences where Danny's

1172
00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:36,999
had she's seen me in Palenque as

1173
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:39,670
essentially the military commander and

1174
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,450
under Hannibal cow and dealing with a

1175
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:46,880
hybrid not normal person and like I said

1176
00:47:51,110 --> 00:47:48,780
a plus-seven for

1177
00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:51,120
hybrid who's in control of the military

1178
00:47:56,180 --> 00:47:53,700
forces and so answers only to Hannah

1179
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:56,190
Pakal and they quite clearly all

1180
00:48:00,080 --> 00:47:57,810
involved with this weird excellent

1181
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:00,090
political situation dealing with other

1182
00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:02,210
non-human groups that are on the planet

1183
00:48:05,930 --> 00:48:04,350
and just your totally bizarre like

1184
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:05,940
whether you look at this as past lives

1185
00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:08,490
or shamanic journeys or or aliens or

1186
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:10,950
whether there be Mia into your head and

1187
00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:12,930
give you a VR experience like like we

1188
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:14,700
can't tell you that because you know you

1189
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:17,910
have to win so so strange yeah you have

1190
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:20,040
to be careful not to put on and say well

1191
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:22,650
I had a time chance result I had a past

1192
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:24,570
life because the truth is you had a very

1193
00:48:30,590 --> 00:48:27,090
strange altered state of consciousness

1194
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:30,600
in which this phenomena presents itself

1195
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:33,630
like you can't really know for sure the

1196
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,930
source of that phenomena or test it in a

1197
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:38,640
rigorous scientific way because what I

1198
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:40,710
can't put in a test tube and put it

1199
00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:42,690
under an electron microscope and say

1200
00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:44,280
look let's look at this phenomena you

1201
00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:46,860
know how do you do that you can't so so

1202
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:48,120
you're going a very difficult position

1203
00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:50,430
where you can't really say what happened

1204
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:52,350
to you only what you've experienced yeah

1205
00:48:56,330 --> 00:48:54,690
mine was very physical but that's one

1206
00:48:58,130 --> 00:48:56,340
thing I do want to say mine was very

1207
00:48:59,690 --> 00:48:58,140
physical I remember I remember in one

1208
00:49:03,620 --> 00:48:59,700
experience because I don't remember them

1209
00:49:07,850 --> 00:49:03,630
or where I was given something to drink

1210
00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:07,860
and in a laboratory and I started

1211
00:49:13,130 --> 00:49:10,980
throwing up and Bruce said that he

1212
00:49:14,810 --> 00:49:13,140
pushed the bed away from the wall and

1213
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:14,820
he's holding me and I'm throwing up on

1214
00:49:24,410 --> 00:49:22,440
the side of the bed and have that happen

1215
00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:24,420
and then wake up that morning with my

1216
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:26,220
eyes completely like especially on the

1217
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:27,810
sides where I'd been beaten on the other

1218
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:29,250
side and my daughter walks in and she's

1219
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:30,480
like what the hell viewed own Tomatoes

1220
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:32,370
like I've you know given Arabic look I

1221
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:34,500
just woke up like that you know and

1222
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:36,780
having scratches and having my hair torn

1223
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:38,910
out and things are yesterday was like it

1224
00:49:44,090 --> 00:49:41,460
to me yes it's an abduction of the soul

1225
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:44,100
perhaps not the body but how do you

1226
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:46,650
explain it and you can't you know you

1227
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:47,730
wish you had a video camera you can

1228
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:49,470
record it from the other side but like

1229
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:50,850
you know stuff it was just it's not

1230
00:49:54,590 --> 00:49:53,010
possible we don't have a way to do that

1231
00:49:56,540 --> 00:49:54,600
so all you can do is try test that

1232
00:49:58,940 --> 00:49:56,550
against observable reality they say

1233
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,950
which bits mesh and like for example and

1234
00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:00,480
we wrote in our first book which was

1235
00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:01,800
about that subject

1236
00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:04,380
rising the last Tolkien one of the

1237
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:05,550
things we said in those you know she

1238
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:06,930
explains that there's an underground

1239
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:09,180
aspect to Palenque in which there are

1240
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,400
tunnels and through these tunnels water

1241
00:50:17,060 --> 00:50:13,440
flows right because she's in there with

1242
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:17,070
these beings and then in 2016 a project

1243
00:50:20,540 --> 00:50:18,480
was carried out and they found in front

1244
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:20,550
of the the main pyramid of Palenque

1245
00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:23,520
there's nine tunnels radiating out from

1246
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:25,740
under the ground and that through them

1247
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,890
water is flowing right so that was an

1248
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:31,200
unknown at the time line to vote in 2012

1249
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:33,570
nobody knew that right now they do know

1250
00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:34,830
yes there is an underground tunnel

1251
00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:37,080
system ahead of the front of the pyramid

1252
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:38,760
and it does have water flowing through

1253
00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:40,200
so things like that then you think well

1254
00:50:45,830 --> 00:50:43,740
okay no that's like objective supportive

1255
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:45,840
evidence and things that you've seen in

1256
00:50:49,550 --> 00:50:47,880
an altered state so then it starts to

1257
00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:49,560
overlay with that well okay well maybe

1258
00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:52,550
this isn't purely you know a

1259
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:54,630
psychological invention or purely a

1260
00:50:58,310 --> 00:50:56,760
projection that there is information in

1261
00:51:00,290 --> 00:50:58,320
there that you can validate and that

1262
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:00,300
underlies this book project you feel

1263
00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:02,010
like is that yeah although the second

1264
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,260
book underlying it is some strange

1265
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:06,480
phenomena but we have sought to do that

1266
00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:09,410
same principle to say well can you mesh

1267
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:13,020
objective phenomena with things observed

1268
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,540
in these kind of states and thus you

1269
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:17,760
know in that way validate that they are

1270
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:19,110
genuine experiences that bring genuine

1271
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:20,160
information yeah

1272
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:21,330
then let me ask you this question

1273
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:22,680
because I'm gonna get right to the point

1274
00:51:31,460 --> 00:51:27,200
on this and we can build off of that if

1275
00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:31,470
you're claiming that there is has been

1276
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:34,500
ancient alien contact do you and

1277
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,490
actually have evidence of this claim yes

1278
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:41,280
or no we do yes but not focused on

1279
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:45,840
linking that's very specific and which

1280
00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:48,960
is also different you know people will

1281
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,780
point to artifacts or they'll point to

1282
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:53,040
buildings which could very well have

1283
00:51:59,500 --> 00:51:56,220
been built by human beings so this is no

1284
00:52:02,030 --> 00:51:59,510
this is Lanie okay so that this is

1285
00:52:04,210 --> 00:52:02,040
verifiable proof that can that has been

1286
00:52:07,010 --> 00:52:04,220
cross-checked yes

1287
00:52:08,570 --> 00:52:07,020
scientifically objective evidence that

1288
00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:08,580
we're using to validate this

1289
00:52:11,870 --> 00:52:10,500
well [\h__\h] again good enough good

1290
00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:11,880
everybody we're good

1291
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:13,640
okay I'm kidding

1292
00:52:23,089 --> 00:52:21,119
that's awesome you say it's good looking

1293
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:23,099
out of place artifacts

1294
00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:24,690
yeah we're not looking at the shape of

1295
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,680
people's temples or or tribes yeah their

1296
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:31,680
types or look at you know what's written

1297
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:34,410
in Mayan or Egyptian or Sumerian or

1298
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,049
there is there will be a zero that it's

1299
00:52:40,849 --> 00:52:39,119
really not about that kind of where you

1300
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:40,859
have to agree with someone's

1301
00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:43,410
interpretation of a possible recording

1302
00:52:46,220 --> 00:52:44,460
of something that might have happened

1303
00:52:48,109 --> 00:52:46,230
okay you know which has been which has

1304
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:48,119
been the mainstay at the ancient alien

1305
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:51,420
subject since he began well let's start

1306
00:52:56,299 --> 00:52:53,970
back at 800,000 years ago and what's the

1307
00:52:57,559 --> 00:52:56,309
starting point well the starting point

1308
00:52:59,150 --> 00:52:57,569
is the first thing people need to know

1309
00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:59,160
and this race today you said only

1310
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:01,140
450,000 years ago is that yeah there's

1311
00:53:04,579 --> 00:53:02,220
been a lot of claims that you know we

1312
00:53:06,380 --> 00:53:04,589
arose 450,000 years ago and that you

1313
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,390
know that's the popular narrative in the

1314
00:53:09,980 --> 00:53:08,640
Sitchin saw stories others you know

1315
00:53:12,859 --> 00:53:09,990
gives us slightly different dates but

1316
00:53:15,499 --> 00:53:12,869
the science tells us that Neanderthals

1317
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:15,509
Denisovans and modern humans have a

1318
00:53:19,069 --> 00:53:17,940
common ancestor right and depending on

1319
00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:19,079
which scientists go to the moment it's

1320
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:21,390
between 700 to 800 thousand years ago

1321
00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:23,130
but there's been a project which shows

1322
00:53:28,279 --> 00:53:26,460
it's it's far more what [\h__\h] closer to

1323
00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:28,289
being about seven hundred eighty seven

1324
00:53:32,059 --> 00:53:29,880
hundred seventy to seven hundred and

1325
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:32,069
ninety thousand years ago there's been

1326
00:53:36,380 --> 00:53:35,430
specific genes that have been sampled in

1327
00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:36,390
Neanderthals and humans and

1328
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:37,859
cross-reference to see when those genes

1329
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:40,200
last shared a common ancestor and those

1330
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:43,910
came up as 782 790 thousand years ago

1331
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:47,249
there's a specific blood protein again

1332
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:49,380
has been sampled which which links back

1333
00:53:53,059 --> 00:53:51,599
to a shared ancestor 800,000 years ago

1334
00:53:55,099 --> 00:53:53,069
but I can go on and on with basically

1335
00:53:58,039 --> 00:53:55,109
multiple projects most of them in the

1336
00:53:59,599 --> 00:53:58,049
last two years which tell us that we

1337
00:54:02,049 --> 00:53:59,609
broke away you know Neanderthals

1338
00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:02,059
Denisovans broke away from that shared

1339
00:54:08,779 --> 00:54:06,119
hominin ancestor very close to 780

1340
00:54:11,779 --> 00:54:08,789
thousand years ago right so I mean so

1341
00:54:12,890 --> 00:54:11,789
people can forget about the 450,000 they

1342
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:12,900
can figure out about two hundred

1343
00:54:16,999 --> 00:54:15,359
thousand years ago they forget about all

1344
00:54:19,249 --> 00:54:17,009
of those other dates right because those

1345
00:54:20,569 --> 00:54:19,259
are not scientifically supported right

1346
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:20,579
so no matter what you're reading in

1347
00:54:25,819 --> 00:54:22,170
these other books it's not scientific

1348
00:54:27,380 --> 00:54:25,829
yeah so that's the starting point so if

1349
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:27,390
you're going to say there et

1350
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:31,050
have created the first Homo sapiens you

1351
00:54:34,310 --> 00:54:32,520
better have some evidence that goes way

1352
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,320
back it has to go back to around that

1353
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:36,720
time yeah it's no good saying that

1354
00:54:40,460 --> 00:54:38,610
there's Sumerian or there's temples

1355
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:40,470
there because that is way too recent

1356
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:43,170
like we cannot objectively say Egyptians

1357
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,930
and Sumerians witnessed events 780

1358
00:54:48,860 --> 00:54:47,520
thousand years ago right there's no way

1359
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:48,870
it's not impossible

1360
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:51,630
yeah or you can say maybe that all

1361
00:54:56,090 --> 00:54:53,670
legends were passed out or maybe there

1362
00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:56,100
shaman's went into you know cyberspace

1363
00:54:59,780 --> 00:54:58,110
or whatever and somehow picked up on

1364
00:55:02,660 --> 00:54:59,790
things but they did not ejected Lee see

1365
00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:02,670
any of this happen okay so 780,000 you

1366
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:04,200
go you don't have any real languages you

1367
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:06,210
don't have you know buildings you don't

1368
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:08,730
have any of that so what you're going on

1369
00:55:12,860 --> 00:55:11,250
instead is you've got a find like the

1370
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:12,870
genetics is history when the strongest

1371
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:14,490
past but there's more to this you know

1372
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:16,910
as we said this is also about validating

1373
00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:19,290
information from unusual sources and

1374
00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:21,150
like until we took an unusual source

1375
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:24,540
that we we fell offered the potential

1376
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:26,760
right and this is a book which I have

1377
00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:30,720
here called um Alger Inga right when the

1378
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:33,630
first ancestors were created right this

1379
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:35,910
is written by an Australian medium her

1380
00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:38,250
name is Valerie Bauer and the book

1381
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:40,560
contains a claim that basically a

1382
00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:43,530
artefact came to be left with her and

1383
00:55:47,450 --> 00:55:45,780
the artifact is was called a chirring

1384
00:55:49,610 --> 00:55:47,460
gaston from the taringa stones are a

1385
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:49,620
sacred artifact of the Aboriginal

1386
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:51,690
peoples off I believe it's the central

1387
00:55:54,380 --> 00:55:53,310
northern part of Australia there's a

1388
00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:54,390
couple of different groups that have

1389
00:55:59,810 --> 00:55:56,910
these they are claimed to hold part of

1390
00:56:01,700 --> 00:55:59,820
the spirit of beings that lived in the

1391
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:01,710
outer inger times and now tringa times

1392
00:56:06,140 --> 00:56:03,690
is the the time of creation the first

1393
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,150
moments why went before Begley when the

1394
00:56:10,010 --> 00:56:08,640
ancestors were created and so this stone

1395
00:56:11,690 --> 00:56:10,020
came into a possession after which she

1396
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:11,700
started having contact with a voice

1397
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:14,130
which said it was at it was altering the

1398
00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:15,510
voice coming from the stone

1399
00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:17,340
so I telling her about these creation

1400
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:18,990
events and that there being a star

1401
00:56:23,090 --> 00:56:21,450
person involvement he then said you're

1402
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:23,100
going to meet a whole string of people

1403
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:24,930
you have memories that they can tell you

1404
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,000
which will help you and she did you may

1405
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:29,040
have about twenty to thirty people each

1406
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,930
gave her some bit of spontaneous

1407
00:56:34,730 --> 00:56:33,000
remember difficult a past life type

1408
00:56:37,460 --> 00:56:34,740
memories about this event this

1409
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:37,470
visitation and modification of an early

1410
00:56:41,230 --> 00:56:39,650
hominin on its own okay

1411
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:41,240
you know she said itself you know she's

1412
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:42,890
not asking anyone to believe it because

1413
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:44,510
she's not offering you any evidence

1414
00:56:48,610 --> 00:56:46,850
right which is fine it's what we said is

1415
00:56:51,370 --> 00:56:48,620
what I heard like if this is correct

1416
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:51,380
which we suspected it was then some of

1417
00:56:56,350 --> 00:56:53,510
the events should mesh with real

1418
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:56,360
objective phenomena from that period

1419
00:56:59,950 --> 00:56:57,890
right from the period where this has

1420
00:57:02,110 --> 00:56:59,960
happened right so you have in the story

1421
00:57:03,730 --> 00:57:02,120
the key points that we've looked at you

1422
00:57:06,550 --> 00:57:03,740
have the description of a large

1423
00:57:08,410 --> 00:57:06,560
crystalline craft which arrives here and

1424
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:08,420
through the way is described I would say

1425
00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:10,490
arrives here through a wormhole because

1426
00:57:15,010 --> 00:57:12,680
of the the way the journey is described

1427
00:57:17,370 --> 00:57:15,020
they certainly for a spatial anomaly of

1428
00:57:20,170 --> 00:57:17,380
some sort beginning in the Pleiades

1429
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:20,180
arriving here as we go into this thing

1430
00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:21,680
of you have Lydians but he's made very

1431
00:57:25,390 --> 00:57:23,180
clear these beings don't live in the

1432
00:57:27,790 --> 00:57:25,400
Pleiades right they have a gateway from

1433
00:57:30,430 --> 00:57:27,800
there to here they've come from multiple

1434
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:30,440
planets that's the claim the craft is

1435
00:57:34,990 --> 00:57:32,870
then is destroyed by a group they're

1436
00:57:36,730 --> 00:57:35,000
already on earth who are supposed to be

1437
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,740
handing the planet over to them in an

1438
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:38,720
agreement so there's a betrayal the

1439
00:57:43,330 --> 00:57:41,210
ships destroyed very few survived the

1440
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:43,340
survivors come down they realize they

1441
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:44,960
can't colonize the planet which was

1442
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:46,850
their original plan that what they can

1443
00:57:51,820 --> 00:57:49,730
do is leave it leave their genetic

1444
00:57:53,830 --> 00:57:51,830
signature in the local hominin and set

1445
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:53,840
it on a new path where it will

1446
00:57:58,810 --> 00:57:56,570
essentially colonize the planet for them

1447
00:58:01,090 --> 00:57:58,820
in a kind of a strange way that they

1448
00:58:02,770 --> 00:58:01,100
will live on through these hominids that

1449
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,780
they've created and changed the

1450
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:04,160
direction of the planet in the direction

1451
00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:06,410
they wanted it to go but via this more

1452
00:58:10,330 --> 00:58:08,750
obtuse way they can no longer simply

1453
00:58:12,850 --> 00:58:10,340
land use their technologies because

1454
00:58:14,830 --> 00:58:12,860
there isn't enough technology left they

1455
00:58:16,690 --> 00:58:14,840
have that three or four small craft they

1456
00:58:20,650 --> 00:58:16,700
use what's remaining to set up a project

1457
00:58:22,270 --> 00:58:20,660
to modify these existing hominins at

1458
00:58:23,860 --> 00:58:22,280
this period you know I've had to track

1459
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:23,870
down the period you know initially in

1460
00:58:27,970 --> 00:58:26,570
the what in that book the date that

1461
00:58:29,710 --> 00:58:27,980
comes up is most he's nine hundred

1462
00:58:30,910 --> 00:58:29,720
thousand years ago like that's what most

1463
00:58:33,340 --> 00:58:30,920
people felt was around nine hundred

1464
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:33,350
thousand years yeah so I went looking

1465
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:35,450
for objective phenomena you know and I

1466
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,850
found is I can't support that date nine

1467
00:58:41,710 --> 00:58:39,680
hundred thousand years but all of the

1468
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:41,720
evidence that I look for as pointed to

1469
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:43,130
seven hundred eighty thousand years ago

1470
00:58:48,790 --> 00:58:46,610
I found initially fragments of the craft

1471
00:58:51,220 --> 00:58:48,800
now say these the way the craft is

1472
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:51,230
described or see crystalline and the way

1473
00:58:56,279 --> 00:58:53,140
is described as being destroyed

1474
00:58:58,650 --> 00:58:56,289
it leads you to look for something on

1475
00:59:01,079 --> 00:58:58,660
the lines of melted highly silica

1476
00:59:03,450 --> 00:59:01,089
material right so I looked for that I

1477
00:59:06,059 --> 00:59:03,460
tracked down what I consider to be the

1478
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:06,069
remnants and they date to 780 thousand

1479
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:08,200
years ago right also there is a

1480
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:09,970
description in there of a second mission

1481
00:59:15,779 --> 00:59:12,450
five years later which involves

1482
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:15,789
essentially the repercussions for this

1483
00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:17,920
betrayal they're a separate group who

1484
00:59:22,529 --> 00:59:20,440
allied with these aliens comes to the

1485
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,539
planet tells those on the surf walk

1486
00:59:26,849 --> 00:59:24,880
under the surface in their cabins so

1487
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:26,859
they look you you leave the planet you

1488
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:28,180
know you've broken the agreement you

1489
00:59:32,250 --> 00:59:30,160
know you've basically blown up a

1490
00:59:34,259 --> 00:59:32,260
non-hostile colonists ship from our

1491
00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:34,269
alliance you leave now

1492
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:37,480
or we will destroy you and this other

1493
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:39,220
group most of them leave they take a

1494
00:59:44,279 --> 00:59:41,200
hyperspace back to Orion where they're

1495
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:44,289
from so of them don't and this second

1496
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:46,900
group of ships uses asteroids which they

1497
00:59:50,430 --> 00:59:48,190
pull behind their craft this is

1498
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:50,440
described in the book they then bombard

1499
00:59:55,380 --> 00:59:53,170
the planet with asteroids right so this

1500
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:55,390
again is a specific event you would

1501
01:00:00,329 --> 00:59:58,390
expect to leave tangible traces you

1502
01:00:02,279 --> 01:00:00,339
wouldn't expect me to just be you know

1503
01:00:05,490 --> 01:00:02,289
something that you you couldn't find any

1504
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:05,500
evidence of and so we tracked down the

1505
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:06,970
geological evidence and found that in

1506
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:10,390
fact about two years into 2016

1507
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:12,910
a team of German scientists I've

1508
01:00:17,759 --> 01:00:15,250
detected evidence of a multiple

1509
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:17,769
bombardment of the planet by asteroids

1510
01:00:23,819 --> 01:00:20,650
right they hit the Americas they here

1511
01:00:26,099 --> 01:00:23,829
Asia Australia he Canada right there was

1512
01:00:29,539 --> 01:00:26,109
a mad bombardment of large asteroids

1513
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:29,549
uh-huh and they dated to between 782

1514
01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:31,690
790,000 I've heard the story before that

1515
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:33,420
my mother told it to me when I was young

1516
01:00:38,849 --> 01:00:36,180
by the bombardment so I mean they think

1517
01:00:40,259 --> 01:00:38,859
about 16 a news story come out I don't

1518
01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:40,269
know miss anywhere else but she would be

1519
01:00:42,839 --> 01:00:41,740
fun but yeah there's a news stories and

1520
01:00:45,509 --> 01:00:42,849
she fell she doesn't even where they

1521
01:00:47,579 --> 01:00:45,519
talk about this so you get this so

1522
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:47,589
that's the second part right but of

1523
01:00:51,809 --> 01:00:49,569
course then you know you have to mesh in

1524
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:51,819
the big claim is you're creating Homo

1525
01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:53,890
sapiens a hundred right you have to look

1526
01:00:59,069 --> 01:00:55,740
when the Homo sapiens start to emerge

1527
01:01:00,809 --> 01:00:59,079
780 thousand years ago right when you

1528
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:00,819
start putting together these kind of

1529
01:01:03,299 --> 01:01:02,710
things they knew that today we'll hang

1530
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:03,309
on a minute

1531
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:05,920
something [\h__\h] weird right he's going

1532
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:06,910
on here and the ever

1533
01:01:11,730 --> 01:01:10,180
and this book is really 2002 before the

1534
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:11,740
papers on some of these things have even

1535
01:01:15,329 --> 01:01:13,930
existed like say she makes no claims

1536
01:01:17,730 --> 01:01:15,339
that she has any other so it's like

1537
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:17,740
do you feel this is true go up to you

1538
01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:19,960
you know I can't no I can't she can't

1539
01:01:22,410 --> 01:01:20,470
prove it

1540
01:01:24,420 --> 01:01:22,420
we've gone away and say well let's have

1541
01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:24,430
a look and then on top of that we found

1542
01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:26,529
that at that same period seventeen age

1543
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,420
eighty thousand years ago is the last

1544
01:01:32,730 --> 01:01:30,640
time that there was a magnetic pole ship

1545
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:32,740
in this planet so we know something else

1546
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:34,569
[\h__\h] weird right he's going off and

1547
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:36,160
in fact whatever it was that happened

1548
01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:39,160
right it disrupted that cycle because it

1549
01:01:42,359 --> 01:01:40,630
used to be every two hundred to three

1550
01:01:44,670 --> 01:01:42,369
hundred thousand years we would have a

1551
01:01:46,259 --> 01:01:44,680
potion if an accident like a magnetic

1552
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:46,269
pole [\h__\h] hasn't happened since seven

1553
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:47,230
hundred eighty thousand years ago

1554
01:01:52,499 --> 01:01:48,640
because whatever it was that happened

1555
01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:52,509
then has disrupted that cycle also the

1556
01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:55,150
same period the millions I cut under

1557
01:02:00,029 --> 01:01:57,670
like the Milankovitch cycles the climate

1558
01:02:02,249 --> 01:02:00,039
cycles that they used to be right in a

1559
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:02,259
forty thousand year those be a forty

1560
01:02:05,819 --> 01:02:04,390
thousand year cycle change to a hundred

1561
01:02:07,259 --> 01:02:05,829
thousand years right there was this flip

1562
01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:07,269
they caught there's a term for it I

1563
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:08,980
promise cool but basically right on then

1564
01:02:13,890 --> 01:02:11,650
they say something disrupted the normal

1565
01:02:15,779 --> 01:02:13,900
climatic cycles of our planet and then

1566
01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:15,789
there's no explanation for it we don't

1567
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:17,140
know what it was but it's made a

1568
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:19,210
profound change and there was also a

1569
01:02:24,029 --> 01:02:21,609
period of climatic chaos from around

1570
01:02:25,769 --> 01:02:24,039
that period going on from then for

1571
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:25,779
hundreds of thousands of years so I

1572
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:27,730
think there's more to it than I think

1573
01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:29,740
there may have been an axial pole shift

1574
01:02:33,930 --> 01:02:31,750
of the planet not just a magnetic pole

1575
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:33,940
sure that it's possible this bombardment

1576
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:36,730
or something else that was done caused

1577
01:02:42,809 --> 01:02:39,369
an axial polar shift in which case you

1578
01:02:45,269 --> 01:02:42,819
would have a much different you know

1579
01:02:47,279 --> 01:02:45,279
impact because it seems that something

1580
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:47,289
has happened here in the even the

1581
01:02:51,089 --> 01:02:48,940
rotation or the positioning of the

1582
01:02:54,089 --> 01:02:51,099
planet or the or something that's so

1583
01:02:56,970 --> 01:02:54,099
profound is changed to know these to fit

1584
01:02:58,589 --> 01:02:56,980
cycles you know both of the the magnetic

1585
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:58,599
pole shift cycle and these climatic

1586
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:01,119
landscapers know cycles have both been

1587
01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:03,670
profoundly disrupted right at the same

1588
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:05,230
moment that we have the claims which is

1589
01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:06,490
you know this destruction of the ship

1590
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:08,980
the modifying of humans the bombardment

1591
01:03:13,470 --> 01:03:10,390
the planet you know they are all

1592
01:03:15,690 --> 01:03:13,480
focusing in on one period seven hundred

1593
01:03:17,069 --> 01:03:15,700
eighty thousand years ago like and these

1594
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:17,079
are you know anomalous event when you

1595
01:03:19,860 --> 01:03:19,089
have an anomaly stack them an anomaly

1596
01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:19,870
he's not

1597
01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:22,660
commonly stack them normally something's

1598
01:03:29,340 --> 01:03:25,990
going on you know and again I'll go back

1599
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:29,350
a bit to this ship the material as well

1600
01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:30,970
these are normal us again so I mean we

1601
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:32,860
have these materials not just I found

1602
01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:34,690
some material on yeah it is dates the

1603
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:35,830
same I mean the book will explain a

1604
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:37,660
Maltese it's also anonymous so we have

1605
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:38,770
on all levels

1606
01:03:43,710 --> 01:03:42,430
anomalous I feel like you just quickly

1607
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:43,720
to put index I know I have a changed to

1608
01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:47,920
ranch on but IIIi got up well I I got up

1609
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:50,230
on might even questions at this point

1610
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:51,970
it's like III can start going into some

1611
01:03:55,860 --> 01:03:53,350
really really weird [\h__\h] there I know my

1612
01:03:57,390 --> 01:03:55,870
in-laws who see that I have been posting

1613
01:03:59,340 --> 01:03:57,400
the shows on my facebook wall they're

1614
01:04:01,140 --> 01:03:59,350
like going it's like so you're innovate

1615
01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:01,150
like alien stuff and like usually we

1616
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:02,500
Lampoon them and I actually said oh we

1617
01:04:05,010 --> 01:04:03,760
always land booing them but at this time

1618
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:05,020
I don't think we're gonna Lampoon them

1619
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:06,940
because we're gonna go down really deep

1620
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:09,250
on the rabbit hole on this one my mother

1621
01:04:12,330 --> 01:04:10,930
basically recounted exactly the same

1622
01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:12,340
thing you did and has been doing that

1623
01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:15,220
since I was a child if your sin this

1624
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:16,390
information where does she get it from

1625
01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:18,010
then do you know well how does that kind

1626
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:22,780
of she never told me right okay from

1627
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:24,010
what you're saying as far as the dates

1628
01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:25,750
they pretty well line up the only

1629
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:27,220
difference in the story is that earth

1630
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:30,000
actually wasn't supposed to have been

1631
01:04:38,790 --> 01:04:35,290
the what was it they hit Mars because

1632
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:38,800
Mars had been made to be the actual

1633
01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:40,450
landing spot or made to seem like it

1634
01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:42,430
where they were actually on earth and

1635
01:04:44,670 --> 01:04:43,630
they came back to earth and said okay

1636
01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:44,680
well now they're actually here and then

1637
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:47,740
they hit here so that is what at least

1638
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:50,890
I've been told by her and where she got

1639
01:04:54,030 --> 01:04:53,050
that information I don't know she may

1640
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:54,040
have just kind of pieced it together

1641
01:04:56,970 --> 01:04:55,510
from the various books that she's read

1642
01:04:58,830 --> 01:04:56,980
or from information that she had gained

1643
01:05:03,720 --> 01:04:58,840
from some source could have been a

1644
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:03,730
download and I know that she is a better

1645
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:06,220
more psychically in tune than I am I'm

1646
01:05:11,420 --> 01:05:08,020
better tarot card reader but in terms of

1647
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,430
being able to either empathically or

1648
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:13,440
telepathically

1649
01:05:17,970 --> 01:05:16,090
deal with with messages or images like

1650
01:05:20,850 --> 01:05:17,980
for instance and wife my wife can

1651
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:20,860
corroborate this my mom my mom my mom is

1652
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:23,620
a sender my father he's a receiver even

1653
01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:24,400
though he doesn't know and he doesn't

1654
01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:27,430
believe in this stuff at all yeah my

1655
01:05:30,990 --> 01:05:30,070
wife and I were at their house and they

1656
01:05:33,330 --> 01:05:31,000
didn't know that we were bringing our

1657
01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:33,340
dog over and we showed up with you know

1658
01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:33,580
work

1659
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:35,230
our child and my dog and he was running

1660
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:36,850
around and we he never he always lays

1661
01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:40,930
down on the floor and my father was

1662
01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:43,390
about to leave work usually leaves let's

1663
01:05:47,250 --> 01:05:44,260
say around 3 o'clock in the afternoon

1664
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:47,260
get someone around 3:30 and he usually

1665
01:05:51,630 --> 01:05:49,290
goes to the store and buy some stuff and

1666
01:05:52,830 --> 01:05:51,640
I'd said to my mom it's like you know

1667
01:05:54,210 --> 01:05:52,840
like one of these days like we have to

1668
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:54,220
get like a bed and bring you know bring

1669
01:05:59,280 --> 01:05:57,370
it here and I [\h__\h] you not half an hour

1670
01:06:00,960 --> 01:05:59,290
later my dad walks into the house with a

1671
01:06:02,820 --> 01:06:00,970
giant dog but exactly the call that I

1672
01:06:07,140 --> 01:06:02,830
told him it was going to be and exactly

1673
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:07,150
when I told my mom and my mom's just

1674
01:06:12,270 --> 01:06:08,970
been able to do weird [\h__\h] like this

1675
01:06:14,460 --> 01:06:12,280
after our entire lives so she may have

1676
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:14,470
picked you up herself and exactly what

1677
01:06:19,860 --> 01:06:17,440
you're like so and also as I say in this

1678
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:19,870
original book you know there's over 30

1679
01:06:23,790 --> 01:06:21,970
people who've given information to

1680
01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:23,800
Valerie there's been including the book

1681
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:25,660
so I mean this tells you that there's a

1682
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:28,270
great many people who have some

1683
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:30,130
semblance if remembering or knowing

1684
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:32,050
about this event you know that that she

1685
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:33,310
was able to encounter that many people

1686
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:35,050
in a short space of time who each told

1687
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:36,970
us something a fragment you know that

1688
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:38,260
they would literally when you know

1689
01:06:41,340 --> 01:06:39,670
they're in a piece usually she would

1690
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:41,350
just show them a picture of these glyphs

1691
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:43,810
from Gosford which you know most people

1692
01:06:46,890 --> 01:06:45,460
consider to be just some fake Egyptian

1693
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:46,900
glyphs now whatever I'm not going to I

1694
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:48,130
can't prove or disprove what they are

1695
01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:50,110
but usually she would just show them a

1696
01:06:54,750 --> 01:06:52,060
picture of these glyphs right and then

1697
01:06:56,790 --> 01:06:54,760
they would start remembering being part

1698
01:06:59,100 --> 01:06:56,800
of the mission or one of their beings to

1699
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:59,110
shot the [\h__\h] or even that they were one

1700
01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:00,880
of the first hybrid humans who were

1701
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:03,220
created they remember a life or part of

1702
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:04,930
a fragment of that life and they would

1703
01:07:08,460 --> 01:07:06,370
give us some piece of information she

1704
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:08,470
would use now the 30 people have it I'm

1705
01:07:12,270 --> 01:07:09,850
gonna say a lot more people out there

1706
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:12,280
have some fragment of this or some

1707
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:14,530
memory or some sense of it having

1708
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:16,000
happened you know which is unlikely that

1709
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:17,440
that was all the people of the world

1710
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:20,230
that had are tuned in on this and I saw

1711
01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:22,330
covering the book you know that there's

1712
01:07:26,430 --> 01:07:23,590
a number ways that could happen like it

1713
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,440
could be that there is genetic cellular

1714
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:28,960
memory that in our DNA is literally

1715
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:30,610
being programmed so we know it's a

1716
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:32,050
program like anyone who works you know

1717
01:07:36,330 --> 01:07:34,210
your computer go I am computer guy like

1718
01:07:38,130 --> 01:07:36,340
I don't have to be a geneticist you know

1719
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:38,140
to know me about DNA because the program

1720
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:39,910
right you know it we know it's program

1721
01:07:44,130 --> 01:07:42,190
it's running you know information right

1722
01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:44,140
so we don't know what's recorded in

1723
01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:46,300
there you know we know is incredibly

1724
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:46,990
complex

1725
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:48,970
and we know that he can do fantastical

1726
01:07:52,530 --> 01:07:50,410
things because he's created things like

1727
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:52,540
us right and it goes on changing them

1728
01:07:56,820 --> 01:07:55,119
and creating them recreate so what else

1729
01:07:59,070 --> 01:07:56,830
is hidden in the DNA we don't know is

1730
01:08:01,020 --> 01:07:59,080
there a message left by these like

1731
01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:01,030
modifying beings that there's some point

1732
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,950
activate and tell us about that story

1733
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:05,200
that's one possibility right I can't

1734
01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:07,090
ignore that then on another level we

1735
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:08,350
know that through sort what they call

1736
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:11,590
epigenetics sometimes that the actions

1737
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:13,510
and behavior of your ancestors influence

1738
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,250
you and it may be things like you know

1739
01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:16,960
coming down to you from them including

1740
01:08:22,590 --> 01:08:20,020
what we call you know habitual behavior

1741
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:22,600
and when people you just know how to you

1742
01:08:26,010 --> 01:08:24,250
know to avoid a spider you know you know

1743
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:26,020
to avoid a snake because we have those

1744
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:28,290
kind of what's the word

1745
01:08:32,849 --> 01:08:30,970
yeah we saw yeah you know without

1746
01:08:34,230 --> 01:08:32,859
learning instincts I know yeah we now

1747
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:34,240
know the instincts are a kind of

1748
01:08:37,769 --> 01:08:36,310
epigenetics this programming within the

1749
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:37,779
genes there is something that your

1750
01:08:42,620 --> 01:08:40,000
ancestors did so again it may be the

1751
01:08:44,849 --> 01:08:42,630
something to do genes and DNA or

1752
01:08:46,650 --> 01:08:44,859
conversely you know alias creepy memeing

1753
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:46,660
stuff into people's heads I can't say

1754
01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:47,770
that they couldn't do that when you

1755
01:08:51,090 --> 01:08:49,000
start talking about technologies of

1756
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:51,100
beings that are maybe a minute at least

1757
01:08:54,329 --> 01:08:52,960
to me like at least 800,000 years were

1758
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:54,339
passed and they were in a spaceship then

1759
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:56,410
right so how much more bars they now

1760
01:09:00,180 --> 01:08:58,000
like we don't know their technology

1761
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:00,190
capabilities at this point okay that's

1762
01:09:04,050 --> 01:09:02,710
another potential and then on top of

1763
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:04,060
that there's a really interesting one

1764
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:05,650
which is when you look at this subject

1765
01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:08,290
of the Earth's magnetic fields right

1766
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:09,910
which again you know we've been talking

1767
01:09:14,460 --> 01:09:11,470
about that with these shifts and these

1768
01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:14,470
flips that the earth has a mystery but

1769
01:09:16,829 --> 01:09:15,190
you know you're pretty heard of the

1770
01:09:19,019 --> 01:09:16,839
Schumann resonance a number of statement

1771
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:19,029
resonances like and some of these

1772
01:09:26,970 --> 01:09:22,330
standing wave like resonant frequencies

1773
01:09:29,460 --> 01:09:26,980
mesh extremely closely with with brain

1774
01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:29,470
frequencies right incredibly close to

1775
01:09:33,809 --> 01:09:31,240
experiments have shown when you when you

1776
01:09:35,220 --> 01:09:33,819
take someone away from those frequencies

1777
01:09:37,470 --> 01:09:35,230
right and you put them underground put

1778
01:09:39,809 --> 01:09:37,480
them in a shielded lab then they starts

1779
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:39,819
become very unwell and they also start

1780
01:09:42,749 --> 01:09:41,049
to be odd you know they can't sleep

1781
01:09:44,490 --> 01:09:42,759
properly there's also a detrimental

1782
01:09:46,519 --> 01:09:44,500
effect so we know it is resonating with

1783
01:09:49,650 --> 01:09:46,529
the brain you know it's doing stuff now

1784
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:49,660
well as as a guy worked my manager in my

1785
01:09:52,769 --> 01:09:51,250
last job I was contracting for the

1786
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:52,779
scientific and medical network and they

1787
01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:54,970
look at unusual phenomena it's one of

1788
01:09:57,870 --> 01:09:55,990
the things that you know this is about

1789
01:09:59,700 --> 01:09:57,880
the network is groups of scientists and

1790
01:10:02,100 --> 01:09:59,710
doctors who look

1791
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:02,110
phenomena beyond the conventional you

1792
01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:04,210
know and one thing I was working for he

1793
01:10:08,010 --> 01:10:06,700
is a geophysicist right and he's written

1794
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:08,020
on this and he says that when you look

1795
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:10,810
at this phenomena is it's almost you

1796
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:12,610
could imagine it essentially that

1797
01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:15,210
information in your brain could be

1798
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:17,910
transferring to the field of the planet

1799
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:20,770
therefore if that's happening you should

1800
01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:22,810
technically also be able to potentially

1801
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:25,030
access other people's thoughts and

1802
01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:27,040
experiences which have been recorded in

1803
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:29,590
that identical frequency of the planet

1804
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:31,210
in the magnetic fields and continually

1805
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:32,560
because recording information in

1806
01:10:36,180 --> 01:10:33,910
magnetic fields for a long time I mean

1807
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:36,190
old tape cassettes recorded to magnetic

1808
01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:37,450
field is that right we have magnetic

1809
01:10:41,670 --> 01:10:40,390
tapes it's not unlike a new idea so that

1810
01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:41,680
you can potentially you're recording

1811
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:44,200
peoples force into the planet right and

1812
01:10:47,940 --> 01:10:46,000
then he said that the time and you're

1813
01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:47,950
most at resonance with Schumann

1814
01:10:51,090 --> 01:10:49,510
frequencies is when you're asleep and

1815
01:10:52,530 --> 01:10:51,100
you know don't feel too bad psychic

1816
01:10:54,270 --> 01:10:52,540
dreams you know dreams for you or you

1817
01:10:57,630 --> 01:10:54,280
living in other lives or strange

1818
01:10:59,010 --> 01:10:57,640
downloads like you are most in resonance

1819
01:11:00,570 --> 01:10:59,020
with the planets field right in that

1820
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:00,580
you're not sure and freezing at night

1821
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:02,410
when you're sleeping so you're you're

1822
01:11:06,930 --> 01:11:04,690
very like Peter then be potentially

1823
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:06,940
picking up on other people's information

1824
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:08,980
their thoughts or even experiences of

1825
01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:10,450
people who've lived in the past so it

1826
01:11:16,350 --> 01:11:13,180
might be that this story is is coming

1827
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:16,360
back up because we're actually reading

1828
01:11:20,459 --> 01:11:18,370
it from that field these are

1829
01:11:22,020 --> 01:11:20,469
possibilities I explained and again of

1830
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:22,030
course it could be pasteurized as simple

1831
01:11:26,370 --> 01:11:24,190
as that we're no consciousness goes out

1832
01:11:28,050 --> 01:11:26,380
of your body you know reincarnates comes

1833
01:11:30,090 --> 01:11:28,060
back and goes back comes and that it

1834
01:11:31,410 --> 01:11:30,100
just happens at in this time a lot of

1835
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:31,420
people are remembering that past life

1836
01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:33,610
it's like I offer all of those potential

1837
01:11:37,470 --> 01:11:35,860
scenarios to people because again I I'm

1838
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:37,480
very careful not to just tell someone

1839
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:40,210
look it's because of this because we

1840
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:42,370
don't objectively know for sure and I

1841
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:44,080
think this is too easy people to say to

1842
01:11:47,729 --> 01:11:46,270
you yeah it's because you know I goddamn

1843
01:11:49,860 --> 01:11:47,739
it oh yeah I cuz I got past life

1844
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:49,870
memories oh yes kiss the planet look

1845
01:11:54,450 --> 01:11:52,330
let's be honest we don't know but there

1846
01:11:56,220 --> 01:11:54,460
are these viable answers to that

1847
01:11:59,520 --> 01:11:56,230
question is there how could it happen

1848
01:12:01,650 --> 01:11:59,530
why is it happening now that yes they

1849
01:12:04,380 --> 01:12:01,660
all of those are saw for potential

1850
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:04,390
answers to that I would tend towards the

1851
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:07,090
past life thing but I mean I can't tell

1852
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:09,610
you is definitely that now do we do have

1853
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:12,430
an idea of or is it possible to at least

1854
01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:13,570
give an idea of

1855
01:12:19,050 --> 01:12:16,900
the area of the world that these beings

1856
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:19,060
land on or worked in what was it with in

1857
01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:22,329
South America no in Australia it isn't

1858
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:24,070
Australia if they came down they landed

1859
01:12:27,540 --> 01:12:25,570
near Gosford which is where the glyphs

1860
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:27,550
are and in the story claims at least

1861
01:12:32,339 --> 01:12:29,710
some of the glyphs were drawn with laser

1862
01:12:34,740 --> 01:12:32,349
with a laser our Tanaka an object the

1863
01:12:37,260 --> 01:12:34,750
other laser beam that they they engraved

1864
01:12:38,939 --> 01:12:37,270
some material on the wall there now

1865
01:12:41,069 --> 01:12:38,949
today there's what seems to be Egyptian

1866
01:12:43,530 --> 01:12:41,079
and pro to Egyptian and other pictures

1867
01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:43,540
drawn on a wall at Gosford now I can't

1868
01:12:46,979 --> 01:12:44,860
tell you if those are the same things

1869
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:46,989
they drew or if other people went along

1870
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:49,360
later and Giroux stir or whether some of

1871
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:51,280
those are genuinely done by an alien and

1872
01:12:54,089 --> 01:12:52,570
some aren't you know there's certainly

1873
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:54,099
characters there that just seems to be

1874
01:12:57,810 --> 01:12:56,170
normal Egyptian like why those are there

1875
01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:57,820
it's a whole other question are they did

1876
01:13:00,030 --> 01:12:59,530
the Egyptians visit or you know are they

1877
01:13:01,319 --> 01:13:00,040
fakes

1878
01:13:03,390 --> 01:13:01,329
I don't want your to assistant because

1879
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:03,400
there's islands on both sides what I can

1880
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:05,409
say is that there's a claim on that wall

1881
01:13:10,859 --> 01:13:08,770
there once existed at least some images

1882
01:13:13,169 --> 01:13:10,869
drawn by extraterrestrials and that they

1883
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:13,179
set their base camp near to there and

1884
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:15,130
that they had crashed in the waters or

1885
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:17,710
what's called a broken Bay which is just

1886
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:19,570
near there their craft went into the

1887
01:13:23,819 --> 01:13:22,239
water another craft that managed to come

1888
01:13:25,859 --> 01:13:23,829
down without breaking up because you

1889
01:13:28,979 --> 01:13:25,869
know they were being pursued their

1890
01:13:30,959 --> 01:13:28,989
crafts they had there's another group in

1891
01:13:32,370 --> 01:13:30,969
this story you know keep in mind that

1892
01:13:34,919 --> 01:13:32,380
this is a craft has been blown out of

1893
01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:34,929
the sky right there's about three or

1894
01:13:37,950 --> 01:13:36,340
four craft managed to come there one

1895
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:37,960
crashes into the water

1896
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:40,210
another one is hovering over rescuing

1897
01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:43,570
them the few survivors less than a

1898
01:13:48,839 --> 01:13:45,369
hundred by the estimate they're given in

1899
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:48,849
the book from a crew of 50,000 colony

1900
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:51,130
and colony ship enormous kilometer

1901
01:13:56,970 --> 01:13:54,280
across from what we can calculate so an

1902
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:56,980
enormous vessel you have a handful of

1903
01:13:59,819 --> 01:13:58,090
survivors they've lost most their

1904
01:14:01,109 --> 01:13:59,829
technology a few things had already been

1905
01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:01,119
brought down to the planet and they've

1906
01:14:05,490 --> 01:14:02,739
got these ships and that's about it

1907
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:05,500
right so they are now back based in in

1908
01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:07,690
South for Southeast Australia for people

1909
01:14:11,729 --> 01:14:08,829
that aren't so familiar that we're not

1910
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:11,739
far from Sydney a bit north of Sydney so

1911
01:14:16,050 --> 01:14:14,110
you have this small group they realize

1912
01:14:17,729 --> 01:14:16,060
they are incapable of long-term survival

1913
01:14:20,459 --> 01:14:17,739
on the planet for a number of reasons

1914
01:14:22,620 --> 01:14:20,469
the environments too hostile the the

1915
01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:22,630
rays from the Sun are too powerful they

1916
01:14:26,399 --> 01:14:24,670
are being burned by the Rays they have

1917
01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:26,409
there's problems with back microbial

1918
01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:26,920
bacteria

1919
01:14:30,900 --> 01:14:28,750
in the water they can't really process

1920
01:14:32,669 --> 01:14:30,910
our water properly the food is not

1921
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:32,679
correct for them there's all the

1922
01:14:35,250 --> 01:14:33,760
problems you would expect they can't

1923
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:35,260
breathe problem all of these do respect

1924
01:14:40,290 --> 01:14:38,650
really for in a real-life scenario where

1925
01:14:42,510 --> 01:14:40,300
you've crashed on a planet where you

1926
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:42,520
don't have the right facilities right so

1927
01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:44,650
the only fortunate thing at all is that

1928
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:46,900
they're able to breathe that the gas is

1929
01:14:51,450 --> 01:14:49,870
there without dying you know but there's

1930
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:51,460
not a pleasant experience you know they

1931
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:53,110
can hardly breathe and they have all

1932
01:14:57,209 --> 01:14:55,510
these other problems so they know they

1933
01:15:00,150 --> 01:14:57,219
cannot this is not going to end as a

1934
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:00,160
long term not a colonial endeavour at

1935
01:15:06,150 --> 01:15:02,710
that point so their only other option is

1936
01:15:09,810 --> 01:15:06,160
they decide is well look the idea is to

1937
01:15:12,209 --> 01:15:09,820
to put this planet under sort of lions

1938
01:15:13,979 --> 01:15:12,219
kind of control improve its situation

1939
01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:13,989
take out of control of these more

1940
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:17,230
hostile beings and to also free up these

1941
01:15:22,260 --> 01:15:20,080
hominins who have been used as slave

1942
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:22,270
labor and who are being played as being

1943
01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:23,890
manipulated genetically by this other

1944
01:15:27,660 --> 01:15:25,780
group and they say that this these

1945
01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:27,670
hominids themselves have been modified

1946
01:15:31,979 --> 01:15:30,040
from a primate that even these early

1947
01:15:34,410 --> 01:15:31,989
hominins are not a natural development

1948
01:15:36,660 --> 01:15:34,420
on the planet that they themselves have

1949
01:15:39,450 --> 01:15:36,670
been made to be utilized by this other

1950
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:39,460
group right so you have that echo of the

1951
01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:41,770
story of the slave story but way way way

1952
01:15:44,970 --> 01:15:43,750
older and I think some of these stories

1953
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:44,980
that we get from the Sumerian stuff are

1954
01:15:49,020 --> 01:15:47,440
a probably shamanic journeys and so that

1955
01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:49,030
where people pick up information or past

1956
01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:49,960
life memories like we're dealing with

1957
01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:52,390
here and they bring it back and it seems

1958
01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:53,800
like they're talking about in their time

1959
01:15:57,540 --> 01:15:55,540
but they're not talking about their time

1960
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:57,550
because this is going back hundreds of

1961
01:16:01,410 --> 01:15:59,440
thousands of years ago this creation

1962
01:16:04,110 --> 01:16:01,420
event and also this enslavement of them

1963
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:04,120
the part of the mission is to end this

1964
01:16:08,130 --> 01:16:06,250
and that they said what we can't do all

1965
01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:08,140
that now but what we can do is we can

1966
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:10,270
upgrade the hominin species and

1967
01:16:13,950 --> 01:16:12,250
therefore it will it will have the

1968
01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:13,960
opportunity to take control of its own

1969
01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:16,030
planet and of its own destiny and

1970
01:16:20,219 --> 01:16:17,830
forward things you know in the way that

1971
01:16:21,959 --> 01:16:20,229
we hoped we would have done

1972
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:21,969
and so that's what they did they did the

1973
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:23,110
best they could with what was left

1974
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:25,510
essentially set up a rudimentary science

1975
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:29,050
lab began to experiment on the hominins

1976
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:30,610
that existed something on the lines of

1977
01:16:34,469 --> 01:16:32,650
Homo erectus it may not be specifically

1978
01:16:37,770 --> 01:16:34,479
Homo erectus but a homo erectus like

1979
01:16:39,299 --> 01:16:37,780
hominin it may have actually been I have

1980
01:16:41,699 --> 01:16:39,309
some suspicions it may be more than one

1981
01:16:43,379 --> 01:16:41,709
but they may also have been the ancestor

1982
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:43,389
of Homo floresiensis and there's a

1983
01:16:46,589 --> 01:16:44,650
reason I say that because in the book

1984
01:16:50,279 --> 01:16:46,599
they mentioned them being the short

1985
01:16:53,129 --> 01:16:50,289
hairy ones right and as I understand it

1986
01:16:55,620 --> 01:16:53,139
the homo erectus that time probably was

1987
01:16:58,529 --> 01:16:55,630
already undergoing hair loss and was

1988
01:17:00,330 --> 01:16:58,539
relatively tall not not necessary as to

1989
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:00,340
all of the averages we are but we know

1990
01:17:05,969 --> 01:17:02,530
that florensis was tiny seems to be in a

1991
01:17:07,739 --> 01:17:05,979
small hairy more primate like hominin

1992
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:07,749
living just off the north coast of

1993
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:10,239
Australia on Flores right and he's

1994
01:17:15,060 --> 01:17:12,880
assumed in human migrations that anyone

1995
01:17:16,949 --> 01:17:15,070
who crosses Wallace line right which

1996
01:17:18,959 --> 01:17:16,959
divides basically Australia from

1997
01:17:21,089 --> 01:17:18,969
Southeast Asia any hominins across that

1998
01:17:22,979 --> 01:17:21,099
line should inevitably reach the

1999
01:17:25,589 --> 01:17:22,989
Australian coast because you've turned

2000
01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:25,599
the hard work like Wallace's line as all

2001
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:27,190
of the strong currents coming down

2002
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:29,650
pushing you out towards Dyke towards you

2003
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:31,209
know into the ocean if you cross

2004
01:17:35,819 --> 01:17:33,489
Wallace's line successfully there's no

2005
01:17:37,109 --> 01:17:35,829
barrier to entering Australia actually

2006
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:37,119
means of whatever you've done whatever

2007
01:17:40,469 --> 01:17:38,409
is where you've got boats whether you

2008
01:17:42,330 --> 01:17:40,479
being washed along whatever it is your

2009
01:17:44,549 --> 01:17:42,340
next stop is an easy run to the north

2010
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:44,559
coast right so there's no reason why

2011
01:17:49,259 --> 01:17:46,630
these these homo florensis shouldn't

2012
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:49,269
have been in Australia also if it was

2013
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:51,010
homo erectus we find tools that are

2014
01:17:55,739 --> 01:17:53,679
erectus like tools on Florence they also

2015
01:17:57,719 --> 01:17:55,749
if they made it they also should have

2016
01:18:00,029 --> 01:17:57,729
been there so we may have have won the

2017
01:18:02,129 --> 01:18:00,039
other or both right in Australia it's

2018
01:18:03,870 --> 01:18:02,139
not recognized now and I'll say part of

2019
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:03,880
dies because there's been enormous loss

2020
01:18:09,089 --> 01:18:07,449
of coastlines this this continent by Sol

2021
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,099
landing sites where people would have

2022
01:18:14,729 --> 01:18:11,440
first got here a deep under the sea now

2023
01:18:17,009 --> 01:18:14,739
so you will not find if if a coastal

2024
01:18:18,209 --> 01:18:17,019
hominin group was here there's no way

2025
01:18:20,580 --> 01:18:18,219
you're gonna find that evidence unless

2026
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:20,590
you use submarines you know but even

2027
01:18:23,129 --> 01:18:21,760
there you gotta hope that they left

2028
01:18:24,359 --> 01:18:23,139
stone tools or something you know

2029
01:18:26,129 --> 01:18:24,369
objective that you can go down and find

2030
01:18:28,140 --> 01:18:26,139
right so we're people about the hominins

2031
01:18:30,179 --> 01:18:28,150
yet we have this is that is a technical

2032
01:18:30,839 --> 01:18:30,189
problem that we know that yes any sides

2033
01:18:32,699 --> 01:18:30,849
where they arrived

2034
01:18:33,899 --> 01:18:32,709
would now be underwater anyway so in

2035
01:18:36,270 --> 01:18:33,909
this description you have the

2036
01:18:39,089 --> 01:18:36,280
beings they then say well okay you know

2037
01:18:41,969 --> 01:18:39,099
they begin modifying them at the genome

2038
01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:41,979
level right the sex religion they think

2039
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:44,860
well we will test implanting both into

2040
01:18:50,939 --> 01:18:48,280
hominin mothers and into alien mothers

2041
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:50,949
so they're running a number of trials

2042
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,320
you know they're trying to modify the

2043
01:18:58,739 --> 01:18:55,360
genes in the way they want them they

2044
01:19:00,479 --> 01:18:58,749
splice in some genes of their own but

2045
01:19:01,859 --> 01:19:00,489
they don't need to do a lot of that now

2046
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,869
this is some people some need to

2047
01:19:06,029 --> 01:19:03,280
understand it's rather when they people

2048
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:06,039
to our hybrids Ameobi countries up the

2049
01:19:11,159 --> 01:19:09,280
idea that you know I know a gray alien

2050
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:11,169
lands has sex with a woman and they have

2051
01:19:15,779 --> 01:19:14,169
a half gray half human baby right and

2052
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:15,789
that's something that you sort of see in

2053
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:18,489
the pop culture of ufology you know this

2054
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:20,409
idea that we have these these you know

2055
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:22,449
half grey half humans living amongst us

2056
01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:27,280
right now in real terms that it's not

2057
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,860
really likely at all because you don't

2058
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:31,840
need to do that what you need to do is

2059
01:19:37,229 --> 01:19:34,570
you need to have an advanced CRISPR type

2060
01:19:39,709 --> 01:19:37,239
technology where you can go in right I

2061
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:39,719
start cutting pieces of genes you know

2062
01:19:44,370 --> 01:19:42,610
replicating inputting fragments in where

2063
01:19:46,169 --> 01:19:44,380
you want them you also need to be able

2064
01:19:48,299 --> 01:19:46,179
to know how to turn on and off gene

2065
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:48,309
expression right because all of you know

2066
01:19:52,259 --> 01:19:50,530
our body is essentially genes expressing

2067
01:19:54,899 --> 01:19:52,269
like four long arms or four short arms

2068
01:19:56,850 --> 01:19:54,909
or for a big head or a small head so I

2069
01:19:58,859 --> 01:19:56,860
mean a truly advanced civilization knows

2070
01:20:01,679 --> 01:19:58,869
look we don't really need to like start

2071
01:20:03,929 --> 01:20:01,689
splicing in like all of our genome into

2072
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:03,939
these beings what we need to understand

2073
01:20:08,939 --> 01:20:06,400
their genome and then start to modify

2074
01:20:10,979 --> 01:20:08,949
how it expresses itself so the weakest

2075
01:20:13,799 --> 01:20:10,989
thought cause you know a bigger brain to

2076
01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:13,809
form and then I'm particularly big of

2077
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:15,340
RAM if you want to upgrade a species you

2078
01:20:18,449 --> 01:20:16,570
won't be more intelligent obviously what

2079
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:18,459
are your focal points is intelligence

2080
01:20:22,589 --> 01:20:20,320
you know let's see the brain you want to

2081
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:22,599
get it that the genes they express in

2082
01:20:26,609 --> 01:20:24,610
the brain those are particularly

2083
01:20:28,140 --> 01:20:26,619
important because he doesn't matter

2084
01:20:29,659 --> 01:20:28,150
really if we've got you know big long

2085
01:20:32,069 --> 01:20:29,669
arms and legs I hope you know because

2086
01:20:33,629 --> 01:20:32,079
whatever else is you won't feel that

2087
01:20:35,939 --> 01:20:33,639
you're looking for the more intelligent

2088
01:20:37,799 --> 01:20:35,949
species that can essentially direct its

2089
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:37,809
own experience on the planet and not be

2090
01:20:41,549 --> 01:20:40,209
the slaves of any other beings that

2091
01:20:43,290 --> 01:20:41,559
might have an interest in this planet

2092
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:43,300
they're essentially self determining and

2093
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:45,280
can then progress forward in time once

2094
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:48,320
you're gone inevitably once you die

2095
01:20:53,930 --> 01:20:52,290
so they begin that process sorry I think

2096
01:20:55,820 --> 01:20:53,940
you gonna say something there Wanda no

2097
01:20:59,330 --> 01:20:55,830
I'll let you let you finish finish this

2098
01:21:00,710 --> 01:20:59,340
this line okay right so really what

2099
01:21:01,670 --> 01:21:00,720
you're looking for is not what people

2100
01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:01,680
would think if so well where's that

2101
01:21:06,020 --> 01:21:04,440
where's the et DNA right and there's

2102
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:06,030
another problem with that right because

2103
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:08,250
in the book they say something which

2104
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:10,530
many people be familiar with but they

2105
01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:13,530
say look DNA itself was seeded on this

2106
01:21:17,300 --> 01:21:15,780
planet billions of years ago by an

2107
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:17,310
advanced extraterrestrial race that

2108
01:21:24,260 --> 01:21:21,440
seeds planets right so you already have

2109
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:24,270
extraterrestrial DNA because DNA itself

2110
01:21:29,710 --> 01:21:27,450
is a complex extraterrestrial code right

2111
01:21:32,930 --> 01:21:29,720
that you put on two planets and

2112
01:21:35,570 --> 01:21:32,940
essentially put a biosphere on a planet

2113
01:21:37,250 --> 01:21:35,580
and so the plebeians know this other

2114
01:21:39,650 --> 01:21:37,260
species know this they know what this

2115
01:21:41,450 --> 01:21:39,660
DNA is they know how it's got yet they

2116
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:41,460
know who's made it they know how to work

2117
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:44,250
with it right so they already understand

2118
01:21:49,460 --> 01:21:46,410
how to modify us because they're

2119
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:49,470
familiar with our code right the look

2120
01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:52,410
saying they made the code right my sense

2121
01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:54,510
of this is you know there's probably an

2122
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:56,490
elder race that seeds planets may have

2123
01:21:59,780 --> 01:21:58,170
seeded their planet so I don't know but

2124
01:22:01,160 --> 01:21:59,790
that they're aware that there's planets

2125
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:01,170
that are seeded and that's why we're

2126
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,490
known about in the first place

2127
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:04,080
that you know the chances of just

2128
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:07,530
finding earth are very small right if

2129
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:09,810
you know of planets seeded by the elder

2130
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:11,370
race then they you will have a whole

2131
01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:13,410
chart a whole list of planets with

2132
01:22:17,630 --> 01:22:15,420
biospheres right because you know these

2133
01:22:18,890 --> 01:22:17,640
are planets that are seeded with DNA you

2134
01:22:20,660 --> 01:22:18,900
know you may have been involved in that

2135
01:22:22,820 --> 01:22:20,670
seeding you may just know who did it so

2136
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:22,830
there's a reason why these these species

2137
01:22:25,460 --> 01:22:24,090
knows and that's important cuz when the

2138
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:25,470
reason people say 'la is science they

2139
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,090
say well you know aliens wouldn't have

2140
01:22:30,170 --> 01:22:28,560
come here because how would they find us

2141
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:30,180
we haven't include signals into space

2142
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:32,250
long enough we haven't sent our probes

2143
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:34,110
far enough you know we don't do anything

2144
01:22:37,850 --> 01:22:35,970
exciting enough we don't space travel

2145
01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:37,860
you know how would they find us and

2146
01:22:41,660 --> 01:22:38,580
there's a really good point because

2147
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:41,670
technically they wouldn't but if you

2148
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:44,310
know the planets being seeded then you

2149
01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:45,930
already got it marked on your galactic

2150
01:22:50,090 --> 01:22:48,450
map that's the seeded planet you know

2151
01:22:52,610 --> 01:22:50,100
keep an eye on that one we'll see what

2152
01:22:55,700 --> 01:22:52,620
pops up later when the DNA modifies so

2153
01:22:58,100 --> 01:22:55,710
we are known about planet right with

2154
01:23:00,080 --> 01:22:58,110
different interests watching us it's

2155
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:00,090
also stated that this planet is being

2156
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:01,330
used as a living lie

2157
01:23:06,860 --> 01:23:04,450
and that the DNA can change the code for

2158
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:06,870
many spacefaring races there have been

2159
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:10,210
essentially coding that code in that 90

2160
01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:13,810
percent 97 percent you know so-called

2161
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:17,710
junk DNA or non-coding DNA there is the

2162
01:23:22,860 --> 01:23:20,710
information to code all kinds of weird

2163
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:22,870
beings and strange intelligent life

2164
01:23:27,690 --> 01:23:25,210
forms they know this as well these these

2165
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:27,700
engineers are starting off with this

2166
01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:29,710
information you know they don't have to

2167
01:23:33,390 --> 01:23:31,630
go in and just you know start from

2168
01:23:35,190 --> 01:23:33,400
nothing and this is an interesting point

2169
01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:35,200
because a few years ago scientists

2170
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:37,990
involved in the 100 Genome Project they

2171
01:23:40,890 --> 01:23:39,370
actually came out in the news and people

2172
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:40,900
have seen this and said well you know

2173
01:23:45,090 --> 01:23:42,310
we've been doing this project for 15

2174
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:45,100
years and we've comes to conclusion DNA

2175
01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:48,370
is an alien code and that within the

2176
01:23:53,220 --> 01:23:51,070
code we're seeing strange patterns which

2177
01:23:55,650 --> 01:23:53,230
we believe in the signatures of the

2178
01:23:59,400 --> 01:23:55,660
creators of that code and they said the

2179
01:24:02,730 --> 01:23:59,410
97% we suspect is actually information

2180
01:24:03,870 --> 01:24:02,740
for non-human beings right so I mean

2181
01:24:05,370 --> 01:24:03,880
this is not something we do you know

2182
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:05,380
that either us or even this other book

2183
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:08,170
is totally out there for you know these

2184
01:24:11,670 --> 01:24:09,310
are people in the hundred genomes

2185
01:24:13,550 --> 01:24:11,680
project they're looking at that code and

2186
01:24:16,290 --> 01:24:13,560
saying you know what this looks like

2187
01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:16,300
somebody as you know [\h__\h] written it

2188
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,860
man and that they've put in here

2189
01:24:22,490 --> 01:24:19,600
information to code other beings and

2190
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:22,500
stuff so if you take that into account

2191
01:24:26,130 --> 01:24:24,760
this platoon crew are in a rigger

2192
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:26,140
position because they they already know

2193
01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:27,910
look we don't need to splice in loads of

2194
01:24:32,850 --> 01:24:30,580
material we just need to know which bits

2195
01:24:35,970 --> 01:24:32,860
of this code to go into and start

2196
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:35,980
turning on turning off you know taking a

2197
01:24:39,390 --> 01:24:37,570
bit from here and moving it to there

2198
01:24:40,890 --> 01:24:39,400
they don't really need to do what most

2199
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:40,900
people think they don't need to start

2200
01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:44,410
you know shutter shagging Bates or you

2201
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:46,030
know or whatever feel like those imagery

2202
01:24:50,510 --> 01:24:47,890
you know they don't need to do that it's

2203
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:50,520
far more high-tech and it is far more

2204
01:24:55,170 --> 01:24:53,200
intelligently directed than that and so

2205
01:24:56,490 --> 01:24:55,180
if we go into the genome and you're

2206
01:24:58,230 --> 01:24:56,500
going to look like what you want to see

2207
01:25:00,480 --> 01:24:58,240
now is an anomaly you know you're gonna

2208
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:00,490
be looking at what isn't anomaly in the

2209
01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:02,850
human genome that would be a signature

2210
01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:06,550
for an extraterrestrial race modifying a

2211
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:08,140
hominid ancestor around seven hundred

2212
01:25:11,940 --> 01:25:09,850
eighty thousand years ago so that it

2213
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:11,950
becomes the first Homo sapiens right

2214
01:25:15,449 --> 01:25:14,650
like you're going to look for this you

2215
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:15,459
know something

2216
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:18,130
also an expression but in expression

2217
01:25:25,290 --> 01:25:20,880
you'll want to see a bigger brain right

2218
01:25:27,929 --> 01:25:25,300
because I mean oh yeah well if your

2219
01:25:31,949 --> 01:25:27,939
bigger brain generally meaning your your

2220
01:25:34,799 --> 01:25:31,959
reasoning skills planning skills higher

2221
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:34,809
memory capacity reasoning capacity

2222
01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:40,090
I'm just critical critical thinking

2223
01:25:48,779 --> 01:25:44,260
capacity you know the ability to imagine

2224
01:25:53,729 --> 01:25:48,789
to vision to visually remember things

2225
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:53,739
that you see exactly yeah the complexity

2226
01:25:57,719 --> 01:25:55,570
we want to see neural complexity but

2227
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:57,729
we've seen we have this on on various

2228
01:26:02,100 --> 01:25:59,280
other animals on the planet right now

2229
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:02,110
elephants being on one dolphins being

2230
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:04,510
probably the closest thing brain

2231
01:26:09,529 --> 01:26:07,090
structure wise to humans at this point

2232
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:09,539
and even when it comes to elephants

2233
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:12,880
there said they see an elephant never

2234
01:26:18,209 --> 01:26:16,570
forgets for a reason so we're you know

2235
01:26:21,899 --> 01:26:18,219
we're not necessarily the only ones that

2236
01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:21,909
have that have made that leap there

2237
01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:24,280
there are other like in intelligence

2238
01:26:30,509 --> 01:26:28,150
memory language a little culture you

2239
01:26:32,580 --> 01:26:30,519
know the culture being a big thing for

2240
01:26:35,429 --> 01:26:32,590
the open sea to have culture language

2241
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:35,439
reasoning you know complex social

2242
01:26:38,729 --> 01:26:37,510
behavior so I mean you know we should be

2243
01:26:40,529 --> 01:26:38,739
careful you have right in the mouth they

2244
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:40,539
also have a bigger brain than us but we

2245
01:26:44,879 --> 01:26:42,070
have a different brains with dolphins

2246
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:44,889
there's elements that we where we may

2247
01:26:48,509 --> 01:26:47,050
have more synaptic connectivity and

2248
01:26:50,699 --> 01:26:48,519
stuff like that so there's so we have a

2249
01:26:52,379 --> 01:26:50,709
different surface structure to the brain

2250
01:26:55,259 --> 01:26:52,389
so so we're looking for two for your

2251
01:26:57,179 --> 01:26:55,269
brain increase in size but also more

2252
01:26:58,770 --> 01:26:57,189
importantly yeah brain complexity

2253
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:58,780
because yeah just having the biggest

2254
01:27:02,429 --> 01:26:59,920
brain on earth like the blue whale

2255
01:27:03,839 --> 01:27:02,439
obviously has an enormous brain like

2256
01:27:06,179 --> 01:27:03,849
that doesn't mean it spends all day

2257
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:06,189
thinking about like advanced mathematics

2258
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,170
for the formulas that you know like yes

2259
01:27:12,989 --> 01:27:10,239
it has a bigger brain and I'm sure it's

2260
01:27:15,299 --> 01:27:12,999
an intelligent creature and is probably

2261
01:27:17,009 --> 01:27:15,309
you know the most turned creature in the

2262
01:27:18,509 --> 01:27:17,019
sea you know I don't know if that's true

2263
01:27:20,219 --> 01:27:18,519
maybe dolphins have got more neural

2264
01:27:21,989 --> 01:27:20,229
complexity I don't know but they're

2265
01:27:23,729 --> 01:27:21,999
gonna be there too big brains mammals

2266
01:27:25,229 --> 01:27:23,739
I'm sure you know from what we observed

2267
01:27:27,149 --> 01:27:25,239
they're both highly intelligent but I

2268
01:27:29,250 --> 01:27:27,159
don't think necessarily the blue whale

2269
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:29,260
is more intellectually

2270
01:27:33,060 --> 01:27:31,600
capable than a human being right and

2271
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:33,070
part of that is because of neural

2272
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:35,380
complexity rather than brain size so

2273
01:27:39,210 --> 01:27:36,490
yeah so we're looking for two things

2274
01:27:41,610 --> 01:27:39,220
really we an increase in brain size and

2275
01:27:43,460 --> 01:27:41,620
capacity but yet also as you rightly

2276
01:27:46,050 --> 01:27:43,470
point out these are the signatures for

2277
01:27:48,180 --> 01:27:46,060
complex brain or you look at dole allow

2278
01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:48,190
us to do all kinds of things yeah there

2279
01:27:50,910 --> 01:27:49,510
there's one thing like again with with

2280
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:50,920
dolphins and I'm doing kind of a juror

2281
01:27:54,300 --> 01:27:52,450
organ thing here and to be able to say

2282
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:54,310
like Jamie bring that up but no I don't

2283
01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:56,410
have anybody to do that let's just look

2284
01:28:00,900 --> 01:27:59,010
at this so sorry guys

2285
01:28:02,580 --> 01:28:00,910
dolphins have been known to do some very

2286
01:28:06,930 --> 01:28:02,590
interesting things with regards to

2287
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:06,940
hunting and well for whether they're

2288
01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:09,280
hunting something to drag into the deep

2289
01:28:13,940 --> 01:28:11,740
waters and rape mercilessly as a pod

2290
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:13,950
because they're known to do that

2291
01:28:20,190 --> 01:28:18,250
there it was actually one would they put

2292
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:20,200
a dummy out forget exactly the research

2293
01:28:23,610 --> 01:28:22,030
group that had that had done this but

2294
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:23,620
they put a dummy out into the water and

2295
01:28:27,060 --> 01:28:25,210
I forget exactly what they were trying

2296
01:28:28,620 --> 01:28:27,070
to research but pod of dolphins actually

2297
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:28,630
took it dragged it down and they found

2298
01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:30,130
it into caves somewhere that had

2299
01:28:35,580 --> 01:28:32,710
basically been raped and ripped to

2300
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:35,590
shreds by this pod of dolphins another

2301
01:28:39,930 --> 01:28:38,800
thing from and that's just mean evil as

2302
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:39,940
[\h__\h] I guess they're kind of [\h__\h] I

2303
01:28:47,370 --> 01:28:43,810
guess they also have known to change the

2304
01:28:48,540 --> 01:28:47,380
salinity of water by circling and using

2305
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:48,550
bubbles and I think there was actually

2306
01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:51,010
killer whales who do this where they you

2307
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:52,480
know like if you have the density of

2308
01:28:57,210 --> 01:28:55,510
water is a certain word if it has a

2309
01:28:59,460 --> 01:28:57,220
certain density things will either rise

2310
01:29:01,080 --> 01:28:59,470
to the surface or they'll sink it's like

2311
01:29:03,150 --> 01:29:01,090
with the Titanic you know if you got a

2312
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:03,160
boat that's sinking straight down then

2313
01:29:06,900 --> 01:29:05,110
it while it's sinking because the water

2314
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:06,910
is being disturbed it actually just

2315
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:08,290
makes everything sink the buoyancy goes

2316
01:29:11,940 --> 01:29:10,630
to [\h__\h] for anything that's floating but

2317
01:29:13,530 --> 01:29:11,950
they'll actually do this with bubbles

2318
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:13,540
from their from their blowholes and

2319
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:16,290
they'll use that to hunt which is

2320
01:29:22,170 --> 01:29:20,770
phenomenal as far as like just the

2321
01:29:23,850 --> 01:29:22,180
ability to kind of use what you have in

2322
01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:23,860
the environment the only difference is

2323
01:29:28,410 --> 01:29:25,470
they don't have opposable thumbs and

2324
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:28,420
yeah well if you're looking at Apes Apes

2325
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:31,030
can do this only they can't do this

2326
01:29:34,050 --> 01:29:32,560
that's the major difference between us

2327
01:29:35,670 --> 01:29:34,060
and any primate that's on the planet

2328
01:29:36,180 --> 01:29:35,680
right now is we have that opposable

2329
01:29:39,930 --> 01:29:36,190
thumb

2330
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:39,940
and if it came to brain capacity chimps

2331
01:29:45,530 --> 01:29:42,570
and you know bonobos and gorillas

2332
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:45,540
they do have I'm gonna say fairly

2333
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:47,130
complex brain but not necessarily to the

2334
01:29:51,729 --> 01:29:48,690
same extent where I can say okay I can

2335
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:51,739
speak to in language although we have

2336
01:29:57,530 --> 01:29:55,110
sign language yeah yeah so that they can

2337
01:29:59,209 --> 01:29:57,540
communicate announce are used in

2338
01:30:01,129 --> 01:29:59,219
language format you know they warn each

2339
01:30:03,410 --> 01:30:01,139
other you know they communicate things

2340
01:30:06,169 --> 01:30:03,420
through that sound but yeah I guess it's

2341
01:30:08,569 --> 01:30:06,179
a less complex communication system so

2342
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:08,579
well what I'm what I'm what I'm trying

2343
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,170
to get at here I'm again I'm playing

2344
01:30:15,890 --> 01:30:12,000
devil's advocate because we do have a

2345
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:15,900
certain reputation as far as ring more

2346
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:17,250
more of a critical thinking show

2347
01:30:23,450 --> 01:30:20,489
compared to a lot of others out there

2348
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:23,460
hi Jimmy how you doing I think I want to

2349
01:30:27,589 --> 01:30:26,010
make sure that the people at home do

2350
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:27,599
understand that we do take that very

2351
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:29,010
seriously so I have to be able to say

2352
01:30:33,979 --> 01:30:31,170
for those at home who would say this is

2353
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:33,989
a very fantastical story again where

2354
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:35,610
we're hitting ancient aliens we're

2355
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:37,530
hitting psychic mediums were hitting

2356
01:30:43,069 --> 01:30:40,290
abduction we're hitting and then we're

2357
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:43,079
mixing that in with hard science and

2358
01:30:47,470 --> 01:30:45,210
people will say okay well you know

2359
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:47,480
there's not much to go on beyond some

2360
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:50,690
anomalies in the DNA that we're finding

2361
01:30:59,890 --> 01:30:54,770
based on the the speed that it evolved

2362
01:31:02,810 --> 01:30:59,900
and you know this this this apparently

2363
01:31:04,609 --> 01:31:02,820
whether it's degraded material from

2364
01:31:08,260 --> 01:31:04,619
craft that may have been within a

2365
01:31:12,919 --> 01:31:08,270
certain area that you tested me found

2366
01:31:16,069 --> 01:31:12,929
but besides the downloads and besides

2367
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:16,079
the Simplot besides the material that

2368
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:17,489
you found and you're going off of the

2369
01:31:23,569 --> 01:31:21,170
book that was brought by a medium how

2370
01:31:25,790 --> 01:31:23,579
how are you how are you double-checking

2371
01:31:28,879 --> 01:31:25,800
these things to say okay this is very

2372
01:31:31,010 --> 01:31:28,889
likely the the result and then able to

2373
01:31:35,050 --> 01:31:31,020
to base that off of the the medium how

2374
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:35,060
can how can the nuts and bolts people

2375
01:31:38,300 --> 01:31:37,170
who only will believe in the nuts and

2376
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:38,310
bolts and the critical thinking be able

2377
01:31:43,490 --> 01:31:41,010
to take you know somebody who wrote a

2378
01:31:46,550 --> 01:31:43,500
book in 2002 and said that I received

2379
01:31:49,069 --> 01:31:46,560
this information from from somewhere and

2380
01:31:50,419 --> 01:31:49,079
again you know my mother had gotten had

2381
01:31:54,109 --> 01:31:50,429
told me very very similar things myself

2382
01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:54,119
when I was younger so there are going to

2383
01:31:57,890 --> 01:31:56,070
be those people who will say

2384
01:31:59,959 --> 01:31:57,900
that that information is out there maybe

2385
01:32:02,390 --> 01:31:59,969
it was written by you know you know a

2386
01:32:03,709 --> 01:32:02,400
sitting type individual I don't have

2387
01:32:05,810 --> 01:32:03,719
every single ancient alien book on the

2388
01:32:07,660 --> 01:32:05,820
planet that I've read or you know in

2389
01:32:09,859 --> 01:32:07,670
front of me that I can pull up or search

2390
01:32:12,740 --> 01:32:09,869
but how would you counter something like

2391
01:32:15,050 --> 01:32:12,750
that and say no this is the process that

2392
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:15,060
we've taken and you know if I'm put my

2393
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:16,530
name out there considering that I've got

2394
01:32:22,669 --> 01:32:18,719
this reputation as being this important

2395
01:32:24,319 --> 01:32:22,679
researcher how can you it say to them

2396
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:24,329
this is something you need to look at

2397
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,610
seriously despite the fact that there's

2398
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:28,560
a lot of stuff back here that may not

2399
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:32,880
make much sense or me you know may have

2400
01:32:37,700 --> 01:32:35,280
to be taken on faith as it were

2401
01:32:40,459 --> 01:32:37,710
how do you rationalize it yeah the first

2402
01:32:43,729 --> 01:32:40,469
fuse I feel like I start in the book you

2403
01:32:45,260 --> 01:32:43,739
know I spend some time on the on the

2404
01:32:48,050 --> 01:32:45,270
first part of the story the strange

2405
01:32:50,050 --> 01:32:48,060
stuff but I also bring in something we

2406
01:32:53,540 --> 01:32:50,060
need to consider here and those that

2407
01:32:55,580 --> 01:32:53,550
when you're dealing with intelligences

2408
01:32:57,319 --> 01:32:55,590
right there at least a million years

2409
01:32:58,370 --> 01:32:57,329
ahead of us judging by what we're

2410
01:33:00,439 --> 01:32:58,380
talking about so if they can create

2411
01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:00,449
humans a ninja path music and they're

2412
01:33:05,899 --> 01:33:03,840
arriving in in a space which has a

2413
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:05,909
crystalline frame which is an

2414
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:07,770
intelligence actually in the frame of

2415
01:33:12,050 --> 01:33:10,530
the craft and an advanced AI is the ship

2416
01:33:14,330 --> 01:33:12,060
you know the ship is alive you know we

2417
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:14,340
talk about like technologies that are

2418
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:16,110
theoretical for us now right so we know

2419
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:18,690
that in theory it's already being

2420
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:20,250
discussed that maybe in the future yeah

2421
01:33:23,930 --> 01:33:21,810
we would have crystalline silicon

2422
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:23,940
networks with an advanced AI and so

2423
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:25,199
we're talking about you know already

2424
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:28,130
they're well ahead of us then right so

2425
01:33:32,030 --> 01:33:30,570
how far ahead are they now well

2426
01:33:35,060 --> 01:33:32,040
absolutely as long as a least a million

2427
01:33:36,830 --> 01:33:35,070
years ahead of us right at least so what

2428
01:33:38,810 --> 01:33:36,840
will we expect from that kind of contact

2429
01:33:41,500 --> 01:33:38,820
imagine that the contact with an

2430
01:33:44,209 --> 01:33:41,510
intelligence that's that's far ahead I

2431
01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:44,219
argue that we should expect something

2432
01:33:48,350 --> 01:33:46,560
quite bizarre and that what we're seeing

2433
01:33:50,419 --> 01:33:48,360
this is the first part makers because it

2434
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:50,429
well this all seems quite bizarre yes

2435
01:33:54,890 --> 01:33:52,560
you've got you know you've got an

2436
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:54,900
intelligence which can travel through

2437
01:33:59,569 --> 01:33:57,360
wormholes but wormholes allow you to

2438
01:34:01,129 --> 01:33:59,579
travel in time as well as space right

2439
01:34:03,379 --> 01:34:01,139
you can bend the fabric of time-space

2440
01:34:06,049 --> 01:34:03,389
right so you they're already at that

2441
01:34:08,060 --> 01:34:06,059
point where they can time travel travel

2442
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:08,070
intergalactic space have ships that are

2443
01:34:11,870 --> 01:34:09,810
alive the travel through

2444
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:11,880
holes that you know clearly

2445
01:34:15,740 --> 01:34:13,410
demonstrating themselves telepathic

2446
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:15,750
abilities between them you know all of

2447
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:17,970
that and that's like a g5 music I

2448
01:34:21,860 --> 01:34:20,010
believe that we're in a contact

2449
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:21,870
continuum and that what we're seeing

2450
01:34:24,230 --> 01:34:22,650
when we see all these things are

2451
01:34:26,630 --> 01:34:24,240
channeling people saying are they're

2452
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:26,640
channeling or there's an I'm an alien or

2453
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:29,130
I saw an orb in the sky or I'm a star of

2454
01:34:35,870 --> 01:34:32,730
Sealand what we're really seeing is a

2455
01:34:37,550 --> 01:34:35,880
contact continuum the contactors never

2456
01:34:39,290 --> 01:34:37,560
stop there's no the idea of first

2457
01:34:41,330 --> 01:34:39,300
contact people are waiting for first

2458
01:34:43,370 --> 01:34:41,340
contact first contact right that has

2459
01:34:45,650 --> 01:34:43,380
been and gone you've missed it that

2460
01:34:48,410 --> 01:34:45,660
happened 800,000 years ago what we're in

2461
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:48,420
now is a contact continuum where they've

2462
01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:51,090
always been aware of it always watching

2463
01:34:55,460 --> 01:34:53,400
always visiting choosing select people

2464
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:55,470
to give information to go into the shame

2465
01:34:59,600 --> 01:34:57,210
and in his cane telling them stuff about

2466
01:35:01,820 --> 01:34:59,610
what's happened go into the psychic

2467
01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:01,830
medium giving them a download land you

2468
01:35:04,910 --> 01:35:03,510
know landing somewhere talking to Native

2469
01:35:06,590 --> 01:35:04,920
Americans and telling them they're from

2470
01:35:08,210 --> 01:35:06,600
the Pleiades you know I'll tell it good

2471
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:08,220
I'll ask the kriya where they're from

2472
01:35:11,870 --> 01:35:10,110
you know don't take it for me that's the

2473
01:35:14,090 --> 01:35:11,880
Cree where they say they'll say oh yeah

2474
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:14,100
you know there's a spider web and in the

2475
01:35:17,180 --> 01:35:15,600
middle of it's the Pleiades and it's got

2476
01:35:18,890 --> 01:35:17,190
a hole and it takes you to the land of

2477
01:35:20,810 --> 01:35:18,900
the craters in the Pleiades and then

2478
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:20,820
they once put a fred down and came to

2479
01:35:27,710 --> 01:35:26,400
earth and that we our ancestor Mayans

2480
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:27,720
where were they focused on where we do

2481
01:35:34,130 --> 01:35:29,370
all our temples aligned with the

2482
01:35:36,110 --> 01:35:34,140
Pleiades because the oh the God yeah the

2483
01:35:37,820 --> 01:35:36,120
Seven Sisters came from the Pleiades and

2484
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:37,830
they walked on our land and that when

2485
01:35:41,330 --> 01:35:39,330
they were here they returned deeper by

2486
01:35:44,180 --> 01:35:41,340
going up a magically growing tree trunk

2487
01:35:45,950 --> 01:35:44,190
eternal or a serpent rope right yeah all

2488
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:45,960
of these descriptions of these wormholes

2489
01:35:50,450 --> 01:35:47,970
are there for you all of these cultures

2490
01:35:52,730 --> 01:35:50,460
are saying right we remember even visits

2491
01:35:55,730 --> 01:35:52,740
from the pleadings or contacts from them

2492
01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:55,740
or downloads from them this continuum

2493
01:35:59,660 --> 01:35:57,690
that's being going on right the whole

2494
01:36:01,820 --> 01:35:59,670
time and it's so big and so strange

2495
01:36:03,470 --> 01:36:01,830
right that when you look at it like if

2496
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:03,480
your person it's like no I just working

2497
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:05,130
you know I work in Majuro of nine to

2498
01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:07,290
five you know what's this stuff about

2499
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,480
like you're not going to see it you're

2500
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:11,040
not going to see it because the

2501
01:36:15,050 --> 01:36:12,930
complexity of a species they can look at

2502
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:15,060
you across time and space and go look at

2503
01:36:18,740 --> 01:36:17,040
your essentially look at periods right

2504
01:36:20,090 --> 01:36:18,750
in your development as though they're

2505
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:20,100
looking at you know what did you want to

2506
01:36:23,839 --> 01:36:21,210
send it you know a Sunday afternoon

2507
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:23,849
right we're trying to come

2508
01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:26,130
put our brain into that thinking you

2509
01:36:29,410 --> 01:36:27,420
know probably they're not even

2510
01:36:32,330 --> 01:36:29,420
biological anymore the most likely

2511
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:32,340
result of an extremely vast intelligence

2512
01:36:36,319 --> 01:36:34,530
if you look at our scientist or say well

2513
01:36:38,359 --> 01:36:36,329
it's very unlikely to be biological

2514
01:36:40,010 --> 01:36:38,369
they're probably post biological they

2515
01:36:42,020 --> 01:36:40,020
may have even entered the quantum

2516
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:42,030
background of space or uploaded

2517
01:36:45,290 --> 01:36:43,679
themselves into computer networks or be

2518
01:36:46,910 --> 01:36:45,300
within a silicon structure because it

2519
01:36:48,859 --> 01:36:46,920
allows better processing than carbon

2520
01:36:50,839 --> 01:36:48,869
structures but you start looking at what

2521
01:36:52,129 --> 01:36:50,849
the scientists expect at least a year

2522
01:36:53,569 --> 01:36:52,139
within our technologies they're

2523
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:53,579
indistinguishable from magic

2524
01:37:01,700 --> 01:36:55,050
you know they can probably alter the

2525
01:37:04,129 --> 01:37:01,710
background of reality all that strange

2526
01:37:05,540 --> 01:37:04,139
stuff isn't that exactly when you look

2527
01:37:06,770 --> 01:37:05,550
what these sizes are saying well yeah

2528
01:37:08,959 --> 01:37:06,780
you know you'd expect them to be doing

2529
01:37:10,729 --> 01:37:08,969
this but people expecting the white like

2530
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:10,739
the landing on the White House lawn

2531
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:13,170
with a silver disc land in outcomes

2532
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:15,449
human looking guy or robot shakes hands

2533
01:37:20,180 --> 01:37:17,010
with the president contact is

2534
01:37:21,260 --> 01:37:20,190
established that is not the contact that

2535
01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:21,270
is going to happen in reality

2536
01:37:25,939 --> 01:37:24,239
you're in contact right they if they

2537
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:25,949
want to make you see that happen maybe

2538
01:37:30,050 --> 01:37:28,050
make you see it the first thing is most

2539
01:37:32,359 --> 01:37:30,060
of UFOs people see let's be honest

2540
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:32,369
they're not physical craft right the

2541
01:37:36,620 --> 01:37:34,530
most commonly seen phenomena but there

2542
01:37:39,919 --> 01:37:36,630
can't be objectively written off as a

2543
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:39,929
plane bird you know whatever is ace is a

2544
01:37:45,319 --> 01:37:43,110
sphere of glowing light right and that

2545
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:45,329
smear of glowing light can do impossible

2546
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:46,980
[\h__\h] thing all right you can

2547
01:37:51,379 --> 01:37:49,530
disappear you can teleport it can be it

2548
01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:51,389
can multiply itself and see by locate

2549
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,760
into ten pieces it can zip off at light

2550
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:56,159
speed right and also what else does it

2551
01:38:00,439 --> 01:37:58,050
like to do it likes to turn itself into

2552
01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,449
triangle across it likes to turn itself

2553
01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:02,639
into black helicopters it turns itself

2554
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:04,710
directly into beings that walk around in

2555
01:38:09,500 --> 01:38:07,199
front of you but that sphere of light is

2556
01:38:11,660 --> 01:38:09,510
not a physical [\h__\h] object and it is

2557
01:38:14,270 --> 01:38:11,670
not a technology that is comprehensible

2558
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:14,280
to the average human being right like

2559
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:15,570
you got to throw that out there because

2560
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:17,460
anyone who still thinks I'm looking up

2561
01:38:20,660 --> 01:38:19,050
unlikely I think there's these like

2562
01:38:22,669 --> 01:38:20,670
airplanes there really if they're not

2563
01:38:24,500 --> 01:38:22,679
[\h__\h] airplanes mate they are not

2564
01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:24,510
[\h__\h] aeroplanes and if you ask the

2565
01:38:27,410 --> 01:38:25,679
Mayans and people and they've seen these

2566
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:27,420
things they watch you know this if you

2567
01:38:31,609 --> 01:38:30,090
read the accounts of say rd6 killer

2568
01:38:33,319 --> 01:38:31,619
Clarke and her books when she's

2569
01:38:35,330 --> 01:38:33,329
encounters with the Native American

2570
01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:35,340
peoples and I some of the accounts these

2571
01:38:38,359 --> 01:38:36,750
Mayans and Native Americans give you

2572
01:38:39,799 --> 01:38:38,369
they say like they've been in the jungle

2573
01:38:41,689 --> 01:38:39,809
there's been a Mayan sites or something

2574
01:38:44,299 --> 01:38:41,699
at night camping and they've seen these

2575
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:44,309
spheres of light come down and then just

2576
01:38:47,330 --> 01:38:47,010
turn directly into these tall seven-foot

2577
01:38:49,490 --> 01:38:47,340
tall

2578
01:38:50,870 --> 01:38:49,500
slightly blue colored beings who we

2579
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:50,880
would consider one of these groups in

2580
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:52,320
the Palladian group they're the ones

2581
01:38:55,729 --> 01:38:54,090
that we've had encounters with and

2582
01:38:57,169 --> 01:38:55,739
they've seen them walking around doing

2583
01:38:58,850 --> 01:38:57,179
stuff at these old Mayan temple sites

2584
01:39:01,040 --> 01:38:58,860
and when they leave they turn into a

2585
01:39:03,379 --> 01:39:01,050
ball a white light and they [\h__\h] off so

2586
01:39:04,729 --> 01:39:03,389
I mean that is not technology in the way

2587
01:39:06,169 --> 01:39:04,739
that humans are expecting to have an

2588
01:39:08,660 --> 01:39:06,179
encounter with a technological

2589
01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:08,670
civilization we have them that's why I'm

2590
01:39:11,870 --> 01:39:10,260
saying that people are not seeing the

2591
01:39:15,069 --> 01:39:11,880
contact that's underway and they're

2592
01:39:16,970 --> 01:39:15,079
still waiting for this solid objective

2593
01:39:19,370 --> 01:39:16,980
physical craft

2594
01:39:20,839 --> 01:39:19,380
contact white house Lord that is not

2595
01:39:21,979 --> 01:39:20,849
gonna happen make all these things

2596
01:39:23,689 --> 01:39:21,989
they're happening these people saying

2597
01:39:26,030 --> 01:39:23,699
I'm a star seed or I remember something

2598
01:39:29,299 --> 01:39:26,040
I'm past lies with aliens or that's

2599
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:29,309
contact these aliens are so alien to us

2600
01:39:34,549 --> 01:39:32,880
so intelligent right they can see that

2601
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:34,559
to do this there's it has to be a

2602
01:39:38,689 --> 01:39:36,690
continuum firstly one in which we don't

2603
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:38,699
modify completely the direction that the

2604
01:39:43,069 --> 01:39:40,530
human species goes not we've already

2605
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:43,079
done it once right let's not go back in

2606
01:39:45,410 --> 01:39:44,400
and just keep on [\h__\h] doing all the

2607
01:39:47,930 --> 01:39:45,420
time cuz what's the point

2608
01:39:49,549 --> 01:39:47,940
let them at least try and run things

2609
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:49,559
themselves right without this

2610
01:39:53,299 --> 01:39:51,449
objectively interfering by land knew all

2611
01:39:56,299 --> 01:39:53,309
the [\h__\h] time telling them what to do

2612
01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:56,309
right but still now and again doing

2613
01:40:00,109 --> 01:39:58,290
little tweaks where maybe they do come

2614
01:40:02,180 --> 01:40:00,119
put some extra DNA into some people

2615
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:02,190
maybe they do watch people maybe least

2616
01:40:05,660 --> 01:40:03,690
sometimes make a contact ask people so

2617
01:40:07,250 --> 01:40:05,670
you know you know what you think of us

2618
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:07,260
or whether they're doing all sorts of

2619
01:40:09,799 --> 01:40:08,010
strange things

2620
01:40:11,180 --> 01:40:09,809
they're also incarnated they make it

2621
01:40:12,919 --> 01:40:11,190
very clear they can direct their

2622
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:12,929
incarnations right in the same way that

2623
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:15,090
tibetan buddhist master will say i will

2624
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:17,010
choose my next life you know i will

2625
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:19,050
choose to be a boy in this village over

2626
01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:20,250
here because I've meditated my whole

2627
01:40:24,169 --> 01:40:22,230
[\h__\h] life I can I know how to direct

2628
01:40:26,089 --> 01:40:24,179
my consciousness and I will choose to be

2629
01:40:27,770 --> 01:40:26,099
somewhere else listen they can do that

2630
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:27,780
they can do that as easy as you've seen

2631
01:40:31,580 --> 01:40:29,730
like altered carbon you know as easy as

2632
01:40:33,169 --> 01:40:31,590
taking a [\h__\h] sleeve right these

2633
01:40:35,209 --> 01:40:33,179
beings will take out an incarnation on

2634
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:35,219
our planet as a human as a [\h__\h]

2635
01:40:38,270 --> 01:40:37,290
dolphin as an eagle as whatever they

2636
01:40:39,799 --> 01:40:38,280
want they can download their

2637
01:40:41,299 --> 01:40:39,809
consciousness into that they've gone

2638
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:41,309
beyond this been where we can think of

2639
01:40:45,799 --> 01:40:43,650
is just people in physical ships doing

2640
01:40:48,649 --> 01:40:45,809
physical things limited by the physical

2641
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:48,659
laws of our physical universe they are

2642
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:49,810
living in any

2643
01:40:54,150 --> 01:40:51,850
quantum based law reality you know where

2644
01:40:55,620 --> 01:40:54,160
the phenomena is no luck they're not

2645
01:40:57,300 --> 01:40:55,630
limited by what we see is oh whether

2646
01:40:59,520 --> 01:40:57,310
these physical laws oh yeah that's fine

2647
01:41:00,690 --> 01:40:59,530
but look at quantum reality look where

2648
01:41:02,490 --> 01:41:00,700
you can you can have interlinked

2649
01:41:04,530 --> 01:41:02,500
particles and bilocation

2650
01:41:06,450 --> 01:41:04,540
and teleportation and all these things

2651
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:06,460
that are cutting-edge Sciences are doing

2652
01:41:10,260 --> 01:41:08,650
right now in labs and are telling us

2653
01:41:11,850 --> 01:41:10,270
yeah you know this molecule is picture

2654
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,860
of a molecule see they saw the picture

2655
01:41:14,940 --> 01:41:13,360
it's not two molecules it's the same

2656
01:41:16,890 --> 01:41:14,950
world in two places it was I mean that's

2657
01:41:19,020 --> 01:41:16,900
that's what happened no this [\h__\h] is

2658
01:41:20,820 --> 01:41:19,030
already happened and they teleport

2659
01:41:23,190 --> 01:41:20,830
teleport and using informations teleport

2660
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:23,200
small objects that's happened right put

2661
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:25,530
a million years onto our technology and

2662
01:41:29,580 --> 01:41:27,730
then you start to get an idea what these

2663
01:41:32,010 --> 01:41:29,590
beings are doing and what they can do

2664
01:41:33,090 --> 01:41:32,020
and what not to expect and another

2665
01:41:34,710 --> 01:41:33,100
reason why you will never see the

2666
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:34,720
landing on the White House lawn which a

2667
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:36,610
lot of people still waiting for you know

2668
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:37,690
we're saying you know why don't they do

2669
01:41:41,610 --> 01:41:40,150
it what do people really think that

2670
01:41:43,260 --> 01:41:41,620
would be taking us in our current

2671
01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:43,270
situation with our current leadership

2672
01:41:48,270 --> 01:41:45,310
and the kind of things that they'd like

2673
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:48,280
to get up to that if spaceships landed

2674
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:50,170
right outside the most you know highly

2675
01:41:54,450 --> 01:41:52,090
secure installation pretty much on the

2676
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:54,460
planet they're gonna say it's a [\h__\h]

2677
01:41:58,830 --> 01:41:56,320
invasion and we are going to be in a

2678
01:42:00,600 --> 01:41:58,840
nightmare scenario where our governments

2679
01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:00,610
say it's happened the aliens have

2680
01:42:04,170 --> 01:42:02,320
invaded let's come together is

2681
01:42:06,030 --> 01:42:04,180
Independence Day let's get the laser

2682
01:42:08,220 --> 01:42:06,040
weapons go in let's put the platform's

2683
01:42:10,110 --> 01:42:08,230
up in space you know the war is [\h__\h]

2684
01:42:12,510 --> 01:42:10,120
on like these beings are not stupid

2685
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:12,520
right they are not [\h__\h] stupid that

2686
01:42:16,710 --> 01:42:14,560
the in playing a long game and they can

2687
01:42:18,750 --> 01:42:16,720
see what we're up to they can see what

2688
01:42:21,090 --> 01:42:18,760
leaders we've chosen they can see that

2689
01:42:22,830 --> 01:42:21,100
we have these secret space projects and

2690
01:42:24,900 --> 01:42:22,840
wherever's going on and break away you

2691
01:42:27,180 --> 01:42:24,910
know secret black projects doing all

2692
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:27,190
sorts of weird stuff you know they're

2693
01:42:31,260 --> 01:42:28,810
not stupid they're not gonna just fly in

2694
01:42:32,850 --> 01:42:31,270
and give that give the winning card so

2695
01:42:34,380 --> 01:42:32,860
that those people can say yeah oh you

2696
01:42:35,550 --> 01:42:34,390
know it's the only invasion like we

2697
01:42:36,570 --> 01:42:35,560
always you know what we sport was going

2698
01:42:37,980 --> 01:42:36,580
to happen you know especially right now

2699
01:42:39,150 --> 01:42:37,990
with all this stuff that's going on you

2700
01:42:40,950 --> 01:42:39,160
know with certain groups out there

2701
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,960
telling us aliens are afraid there

2702
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:42,400
should be platforms it's like right now

2703
01:42:46,530 --> 01:42:44,560
in the news mainstream media are telling

2704
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:46,540
us aliens are a threat UFOs are real

2705
01:42:49,710 --> 01:42:48,010
they're a threat there should be special

2706
01:42:50,940 --> 01:42:49,720
projects to get ready for you know it's

2707
01:42:52,710 --> 01:42:50,950
for a war with aliens right that's

2708
01:42:55,020 --> 01:42:52,720
happening don't tell me these beings are

2709
01:42:57,090 --> 01:42:55,030
unaware of that in or [\h__\h] stupid

2710
01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:57,100
they can see that we're right on that

2711
01:42:59,690 --> 01:42:58,210
edge of that and if they start doing

2712
01:43:01,650 --> 01:42:59,700
like land and if they have a physical

2713
01:43:03,570 --> 01:43:01,660
representative to come down from one of

2714
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:03,580
these groups you know I don't think

2715
01:43:06,930 --> 01:43:05,440
that's gonna be spun in the way that we

2716
01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:06,940
think it would be spam I think it would

2717
01:43:11,940 --> 01:43:09,910
be a disaster and so what they're doing

2718
01:43:13,650 --> 01:43:11,950
instead is much more subtle and that

2719
01:43:15,540 --> 01:43:13,660
they are trying to influence away from

2720
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:15,550
that sign of scenario where we end up

2721
01:43:20,010 --> 01:43:17,610
being the pariah of the cosmos and

2722
01:43:22,380 --> 01:43:20,020
unwelcome in any kind of other you know

2723
01:43:25,380 --> 01:43:22,390
groupings beyond this world within with

2724
01:43:27,420 --> 01:43:25,390
truly intelligent species who have gone

2725
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:27,430
beyond this stage you've survived the

2726
01:43:30,780 --> 01:43:29,290
transition from basically non

2727
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:30,790
intelligent to intelligent and truly

2728
01:43:33,570 --> 01:43:32,110
technologically advanced truly

2729
01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:33,580
understanding the nature of reality and

2730
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:35,590
be able to bend it right we're nearly

2731
01:43:39,690 --> 01:43:37,810
there and they are watching to see what

2732
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:39,700
we will do at this stage and if we make

2733
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:42,130
it we probably will have full contact in

2734
01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:44,530
the in the observable transparent not

2735
01:43:48,420 --> 01:43:46,270
one guy saying he sees UFO knees you

2736
01:43:49,890 --> 01:43:48,430
know so his bedroom or one person saying

2737
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:49,900
that they've that they remember in a

2738
01:43:53,850 --> 01:43:51,760
past life you know all of that strange

2739
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:53,860
phenomena you have to put together too

2740
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:55,900
often you know you'll have a specialist

2741
01:43:59,760 --> 01:43:57,760
in past lives a specialist in UFOs

2742
01:44:01,440 --> 01:43:59,770
especially like I'm a generalist right

2743
01:44:01,890 --> 01:44:01,450
anyone listen if you can tell like I'm a

2744
01:44:04,230 --> 01:44:01,900
gentleman

2745
01:44:05,790 --> 01:44:04,240
yeah I look at all unexplained phenomena

2746
01:44:07,260 --> 01:44:05,800
you're looking at the 30 odd years right

2747
01:44:08,610 --> 01:44:07,270
the only reason why I can put this

2748
01:44:10,980 --> 01:44:08,620
together into a sort of sensible

2749
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:10,990
narrative is because of that now if I

2750
01:44:15,180 --> 01:44:12,730
was just specializing in physical craft

2751
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:15,190
and covered by the military I would spin

2752
01:44:18,660 --> 01:44:16,570
you a very different story I'd be saying

2753
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:18,670
like yeah these special alloys and then

2754
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:19,570
they're loud and they're gain these

2755
01:44:23,790 --> 01:44:21,970
bodies and like yeah that that might be

2756
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:23,800
happening there might be a physical

2757
01:44:26,910 --> 01:44:25,090
group that comes here in their ships

2758
01:44:28,410 --> 01:44:26,920
crashed or they deliberately left one

2759
01:44:30,330 --> 01:44:28,420
which is more likely those why they'd

2760
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:30,340
crash but deliberately left one so that

2761
01:44:33,150 --> 01:44:31,810
our government could back engineer it

2762
01:44:34,530 --> 01:44:33,160
and make weapons from it yeah that's

2763
01:44:36,060 --> 01:44:34,540
quite possible I'm sure there's players

2764
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:36,070
out there that would find out you know

2765
01:44:39,420 --> 01:44:38,110
of interest to them for whatever reason

2766
01:44:40,650 --> 01:44:39,430
you know because they're alien interest

2767
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:40,660
with alien thinking so I'm not going to

2768
01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:43,090
say that that doesn't happen but I could

2769
01:44:46,730 --> 01:44:44,620
spin you that's the whole story right

2770
01:44:49,140 --> 01:44:46,740
because that would be my specialty but

2771
01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:49,150
I'm not specializing in that so I can't

2772
01:44:52,350 --> 01:44:50,590
oh yeah maybe that happens I can see

2773
01:44:54,270 --> 01:44:52,360
also is a whole load of phenomena

2774
01:44:56,670 --> 01:44:54,280
there's shaman's in the general who are

2775
01:44:58,860 --> 01:44:56,680
meeting grey aliens in altered states

2776
01:45:01,380 --> 01:44:58,870
who are meeting seven-foot palladiums in

2777
01:45:03,420 --> 01:45:01,390
altered states you see UFO saucer craft

2778
01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:03,430
in there altered states right not

2779
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:05,470
physically in other dimensions right

2780
01:45:08,460 --> 01:45:06,610
when they're going into other

2781
01:45:10,590 --> 01:45:08,470
consciousness levels they see in the

2782
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:10,600
same phenomena the people might see in

2783
01:45:13,950 --> 01:45:12,490
you know walking through in their garden

2784
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:13,960
in America or something say lice or

2785
01:45:16,930 --> 01:45:15,850
cross or a saw a gray yeah but these

2786
01:45:18,850 --> 01:45:16,940
people are also seeing it

2787
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:18,860
from drinking ayahuasca or something you

2788
01:45:22,750 --> 01:45:20,330
know that or from just banging their

2789
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:22,760
drum so I mean we've got really put

2790
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:24,770
these things together and say look this

2791
01:45:30,250 --> 01:45:27,530
is really [\h__\h] complicated but how

2792
01:45:31,570 --> 01:45:30,260
weird but how do we know that it's it's

2793
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:31,580
extraterrestrial and it's not

2794
01:45:35,980 --> 01:45:34,370
interdimensional it's easy

2795
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:35,990
two-dimensional absolutely it's

2796
01:45:40,150 --> 01:45:38,330
interdimensional absolutely and it is

2797
01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:40,160
quantum phenomena and that we know

2798
01:45:43,300 --> 01:45:41,510
that's why we have to look at the nature

2799
01:45:46,030 --> 01:45:43,310
of reality and the nature of

2800
01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:46,040
consciousness if we glaze over that and

2801
01:45:50,410 --> 01:45:49,280
try to keep this as a 3d story about you

2802
01:45:51,850 --> 01:45:50,420
know physical people from a physical

2803
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:51,860
planet coming to our physical world and

2804
01:46:01,900 --> 01:45:53,810
us being physical beings and but it

2805
01:46:03,460 --> 01:46:01,910
would never make sense because now is

2806
01:46:05,290 --> 01:46:03,470
the moment where things are just getting

2807
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:05,300
hyped up it's getting hot the topic is

2808
01:46:08,590 --> 01:46:07,250
getting hotter day-by-day you know the

2809
01:46:10,330 --> 01:46:08,600
last two years we've seen so many

2810
01:46:11,950 --> 01:46:10,340
changes in this direction I was like

2811
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:11,960
right this book has to come out for

2812
01:46:15,460 --> 01:46:13,730
those that have the sense to read it and

2813
01:46:17,230 --> 01:46:15,470
want to know what's really going on and

2814
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:17,240
put one on one thing over so they don't

2815
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:19,370
go down that role you know path yeah

2816
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:21,170
where it's easy to be just push down one

2817
01:46:24,670 --> 01:46:22,850
way of thinking all that they're all

2818
01:46:26,020 --> 01:46:24,680
good well they're all bad I mean that's

2819
01:46:27,460 --> 01:46:26,030
another thing that right now you can see

2820
01:46:30,340 --> 01:46:27,470
in the ufology there's this polarity

2821
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:30,350
either all non-human intelligences

2822
01:46:33,340 --> 01:46:31,570
whether physical or non-physical

2823
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:33,350
interdimensional whatever they're either

2824
01:46:37,780 --> 01:46:36,530
all good or all bad right that's a very

2825
01:46:39,430 --> 01:46:37,790
dangerous position to take as well

2826
01:46:41,830 --> 01:46:39,440
because you should take a critically

2827
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:41,840
mind position that any being that comes

2828
01:46:46,450 --> 01:46:43,970
here probably has some level of self

2829
01:46:47,980 --> 01:46:46,460
interests right whether they're coming

2830
01:46:49,810 --> 01:46:47,990
through wormholes or whether they land

2831
01:46:51,460 --> 01:46:49,820
on the you know on your garden but

2832
01:46:53,230 --> 01:46:51,470
because we would go out into the

2833
01:46:56,620 --> 01:46:53,240
universe with some self interests right

2834
01:46:58,180 --> 01:46:56,630
we as human happy know worse yeah we an

2835
01:47:00,190 --> 01:46:58,190
even if we did inadvertently decide to

2836
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:00,200
sort of rescue mission on a planet like

2837
01:47:04,180 --> 01:47:02,330
we would weigh that up and say does it

2838
01:47:05,980 --> 01:47:04,190
does it get blow back does it have

2839
01:47:08,110 --> 01:47:05,990
negative implications for us does it

2840
01:47:09,850 --> 01:47:08,120
cost us a lot you know we would weigh up

2841
01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:09,860
all those factors before doing it right

2842
01:47:15,070 --> 01:47:12,560
so we can't just assume other groups are

2843
01:47:16,690 --> 01:47:15,080
just purely benevolent or they're just

2844
01:47:19,210 --> 01:47:16,700
purely evil I think that you know these

2845
01:47:20,260 --> 01:47:19,220
groups are gonna have like us you know

2846
01:47:21,430 --> 01:47:20,270
they're gonna have a bit of both I'm

2847
01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:21,440
also gonna have bad days and good days

2848
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:23,450
and also they're gonna have agendas

2849
01:47:28,090 --> 01:47:26,330
which are in Concord with us where they

2850
01:47:29,490 --> 01:47:28,100
say well you know uh you know we could

2851
01:47:32,050 --> 01:47:29,500
do that because we were all

2852
01:47:34,180 --> 01:47:32,060
now that's fine if they have an agenda

2853
01:47:36,820 --> 01:47:34,190
where we also benefit and they benefit

2854
01:47:38,170 --> 01:47:36,830
too then like okay cool you know I'm not

2855
01:47:39,820 --> 01:47:38,180
against that two parties getting

2856
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:39,830
something good out of it and I think

2857
01:47:42,970 --> 01:47:41,210
that's where we had to look for is what

2858
01:47:44,260 --> 01:47:42,980
are these kind of agenda yeah that's

2859
01:47:46,420 --> 01:47:44,270
another I don't write about switch in

2860
01:47:47,860 --> 01:47:46,430
the book but I am a lot of time thinking

2861
01:47:50,140 --> 01:47:47,870
about these sort of things obviously and

2862
01:47:52,620 --> 01:47:50,150
you know I can see mutual gain and

2863
01:47:55,900 --> 01:47:52,630
agendas that suit some of these groups

2864
01:47:59,560 --> 01:47:55,910
for example I'll just throw this out

2865
01:48:01,380 --> 01:47:59,570
there as a scenario right our experts on

2866
01:48:03,940 --> 01:48:01,390
this planet like the leading

2867
01:48:07,020 --> 01:48:03,950
psychiatrist psychologist exobiologist

2868
01:48:10,780 --> 01:48:07,030
etc they're telling us right most

2869
01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:10,790
advanced species once they hit truly

2870
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:12,710
technological will become post

2871
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:15,650
biological as we said earlier and so you

2872
01:48:20,380 --> 01:48:17,930
they will start to be able to transition

2873
01:48:23,890 --> 01:48:20,390
from their bodies either to machines

2874
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:23,900
computer networks robots or into the

2875
01:48:27,220 --> 01:48:25,520
background of space you know actually

2876
01:48:28,570 --> 01:48:27,230
becoming part of the fabric of quantum

2877
01:48:30,790 --> 01:48:28,580
reality these are the kind of things

2878
01:48:34,030 --> 01:48:30,800
they expect yeah it'd be quite rare they

2879
01:48:35,340 --> 01:48:34,040
think to encounter a biological life now

2880
01:48:38,500 --> 01:48:35,350
let's just say that you've been

2881
01:48:41,290 --> 01:48:38,510
non-biological living as data for maybe

2882
01:48:43,390 --> 01:48:41,300
a million years or a billion years you

2883
01:48:45,190 --> 01:48:43,400
know and you said you know what be nice

2884
01:48:46,780 --> 01:48:45,200
to experience again be nice to

2885
01:48:50,500 --> 01:48:46,790
experience physical reality again

2886
01:48:53,140 --> 01:48:50,510
there's afridi biological unit now where

2887
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,150
can we gain access to some of these for

2888
01:48:57,460 --> 01:48:55,280
incarnation or download purposes well

2889
01:48:59,230 --> 01:48:57,470
there's seven billion on earth quite a

2890
01:49:00,370 --> 01:48:59,240
few there so mean when you start

2891
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:00,380
thinking on your sin these being said

2892
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:02,210
yes we can download yes we can incarnate

2893
01:49:07,300 --> 01:49:04,370
yes you know we can just choose to

2894
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:07,310
become human we can be star seeds well

2895
01:49:12,130 --> 01:49:10,370
look isn't that that rich you know these

2896
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:12,140
some of these intelligences may be

2897
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:16,130
choosing a return now that's fine in a

2898
01:49:18,910 --> 01:49:17,330
way because they're not coming in and

2899
01:49:21,580 --> 01:49:18,920
and possessing people you know they're

2900
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:21,590
coming into a fetus and becoming a human

2901
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:23,570
being and getting to live again as a

2902
01:49:27,850 --> 01:49:25,610
biological being that's fine

2903
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:27,860
I know I problem with that but but we

2904
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:29,690
then say okay they have a shared

2905
01:49:34,420 --> 01:49:31,690
interest and in our planet not being

2906
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:34,430
firm and nuclear blasted to bits right

2907
01:49:37,420 --> 01:49:36,050
and we one thing we've seen the UFO

2908
01:49:38,050 --> 01:49:37,430
phenomena is they seem to turn off our

2909
01:49:39,580 --> 01:49:38,060
nukes

2910
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:39,590
they seem to interfere in nuclear

2911
01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:41,690
devices there seems to be an interesting

2912
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:42,430
I don't

2913
01:49:45,570 --> 01:49:44,110
these beings want this planet completely

2914
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:45,580
ruined probably many of them have ruined

2915
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:47,170
their own planets to get to being

2916
01:49:51,180 --> 01:49:48,850
technological and their planets may be

2917
01:49:53,190 --> 01:49:51,190
long gone from the skies so that we may

2918
01:49:55,170 --> 01:49:53,200
be a very limited type of biological

2919
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:55,180
resource this planet there's things like

2920
01:49:58,770 --> 01:49:56,800
this we have to consider you have to

2921
01:50:01,470 --> 01:49:58,780
start thinking outside the box and again

2922
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:01,480
at the same time it's it's entirely

2923
01:50:07,110 --> 01:50:03,850
possible based on well well it's

2924
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:07,120
possible and again consider this is the

2925
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:08,290
first time you've actually talked about

2926
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:10,930
this I want at least I want to make sure

2927
01:50:14,430 --> 01:50:12,490
at least well first of all if you do any

2928
01:50:15,810 --> 01:50:14,440
more interviews that if you have any

2929
01:50:17,490 --> 01:50:15,820
more questions about this it's vented

2930
01:50:23,690 --> 01:50:17,500
you will you'll wash you'll be prepared

2931
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:26,700
considering there's I suppose so to put

2932
01:50:31,470 --> 01:50:28,480
it I've heard a lot of crazy [\h__\h]

2933
01:50:34,770 --> 01:50:31,480
and in you apology a lot of crazy

2934
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:34,780
[\h__\h] some of it make is used it uses

2935
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:36,490
things that are based within this you

2936
01:50:39,690 --> 01:50:38,320
know the reality of what we have as far

2937
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:39,700
as technology or at least the

2938
01:50:46,230 --> 01:50:42,250
possibility of technology and using that

2939
01:50:48,330 --> 01:50:46,240
as an excuse to you know implant on on

2940
01:50:49,650 --> 01:50:48,340
what the argument is people will go to

2941
01:50:51,870 --> 01:50:49,660
it and say oh my god this is amazing

2942
01:50:55,890 --> 01:50:51,880
without necessarily considering all of

2943
01:50:57,570 --> 01:50:55,900
the the angles and if you're seeing that

2944
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:57,580
everything is possible that the

2945
01:50:59,940 --> 01:50:58,960
correlation does not matter what

2946
01:51:00,960 --> 01:50:59,950
coalition doesn't necessarily mean

2947
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:00,970
causation it doesn't necessarily apply

2948
01:51:05,670 --> 01:51:04,030
in that for that argument but because

2949
01:51:07,530 --> 01:51:05,680
it's possible doesn't necessarily mean

2950
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,540
that it's true that's happy no that's

2951
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:09,520
why we focused on one specific event in

2952
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:12,010
one specific time okay because you give

2953
01:51:17,310 --> 01:51:14,050
people that anchor you know that first

2954
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:17,320
well look you know have et didn't even

2955
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:19,210
exist for a spa you know do things I

2956
01:51:23,790 --> 01:51:21,250
don't know how'd they be no that's why I

2957
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:23,800
mean we focused on that specific event

2958
01:51:29,700 --> 01:51:26,470
you know is showing that there are the

2959
01:51:33,570 --> 01:51:29,710
fragments of an anomalous object which

2960
01:51:35,670 --> 01:51:33,580
came from space right that's beyond now

2961
01:51:40,620 --> 01:51:35,680
they totally established not work that

2962
01:51:41,550 --> 01:51:40,630
there is absolutely that yeah basically

2963
01:51:43,710 --> 01:51:41,560
that would be establishing the book

2964
01:51:45,630 --> 01:51:43,720
people be able to read about what is

2965
01:51:48,090 --> 01:51:45,640
this material why is it its anomalous

2966
01:51:50,190 --> 01:51:48,100
why is it there has to have come from a

2967
01:51:52,230 --> 01:51:50,200
craft in space you know how does that

2968
01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:52,240
fit in with this story so in that is

2969
01:51:55,470 --> 01:51:53,830
offered with scientific papers you know

2970
01:51:55,860 --> 01:51:55,480
they have looked at this material you

2971
01:51:57,870 --> 01:51:55,870
know not

2972
01:51:59,370 --> 01:51:57,880
for me you know it independently you

2973
01:52:01,050 --> 01:51:59,380
have not concluded this from an alien

2974
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:01,060
craft you know they just see as an

2975
01:52:05,490 --> 01:52:03,250
anomalous material that has a formation

2976
01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:05,500
in space etc right because obviously

2977
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:07,420
they won't leap to the Iranian ship and

2978
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:09,250
they have no context to do that right

2979
01:52:15,060 --> 01:52:12,250
but then this actually meshes precisely

2980
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:15,070
with the dating and again it's well to

2981
01:52:19,380 --> 01:52:17,170
feature as well the fact that Australia

2982
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:19,390
right it's relevant here because if a

2983
01:52:23,850 --> 01:52:21,970
cross is destroyed in space and anyone

2984
01:52:26,010 --> 01:52:23,860
comes out of it right two things is

2985
01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:26,020
gonna happen those crafts only comes

2986
01:52:30,690 --> 01:52:28,240
down to the land below them and so is

2987
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:30,700
some of the material right where do we

2988
01:52:34,500 --> 01:52:32,350
find both this story continuing

2989
01:52:37,230 --> 01:52:34,510
Australia where does this material found

2990
01:52:39,150 --> 01:52:37,240
Australia right again from Southeast

2991
01:52:41,220 --> 01:52:39,160
Australia where this is so again when

2992
01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:41,230
you say what makes your fingers when you

2993
01:52:46,740 --> 01:52:43,990
get the interlocking of evidence so okay

2994
01:52:48,150 --> 01:52:46,750
both the material and is here and the

2995
01:52:50,940 --> 01:52:48,160
story also says you know well that's

2996
01:52:52,830 --> 01:52:50,950
where these beings eyes on Australia so

2997
01:52:53,910 --> 01:52:52,840
they should be then that the materials

2998
01:52:57,060 --> 01:52:53,920
there and that's where we've identified

2999
01:53:00,410 --> 01:52:57,070
this material you also then should have

3000
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:00,420
as I say at that period specifically

3001
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:03,280
780,000 specific evidence that that is

3002
01:53:07,650 --> 01:53:05,110
even the beginning of homo sapiens

3003
01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:07,660
now consider this about a year ago or

3004
01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:11,200
two years ago nobody on the planet would

3005
01:53:15,150 --> 01:53:13,510
have put that date right nobody on the

3006
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:15,160
planet would put as the day that's as

3007
01:53:18,330 --> 01:53:16,330
simple as that they would have told you

3008
01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:18,340
right that the Homo sapiens Neanderthal

3009
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:20,590
center so bones probably side diverging

3010
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:22,570
three hundred thousand years ago maybe

3011
01:53:26,130 --> 01:53:24,370
four hundred then he went to five

3012
01:53:28,590 --> 01:53:26,140
hundred right so there's no people

3013
01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:28,600
consider there's no way ten years twenty

3014
01:53:31,980 --> 01:53:30,490
years ago yeah it's been moving and

3015
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:31,990
moving so if you'd gone back ten years

3016
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:33,730
ago twenty you know when they saw him to

3017
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:35,440
you in the books come out no way

3018
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:36,850
you know you'll be totally out there

3019
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:38,110
which was things like nine hundred

3020
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:40,000
thousand but even in our work you know

3021
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:43,050
if I tried to write this two years ago I

3022
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:45,370
would have struggled because you Bo how

3023
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:46,810
does that mesh you know they're cynics

3024
01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:47,890
asking what the scientists are saying

3025
01:53:51,450 --> 01:53:50,020
you know I'm not a geneticist so I have

3026
01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:51,460
to look at what are they saying if

3027
01:53:54,810 --> 01:53:52,960
they're saying it happened three hundred

3028
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:54,820
thousand years ago but it's no good me

3029
01:53:57,870 --> 01:53:56,320
saying but I found bits of a craft from

3030
01:53:59,700 --> 01:53:57,880
seven hundred eighty thousand years ago

3031
01:54:00,690 --> 01:53:59,710
and that they made people because then

3032
01:54:02,190 --> 01:54:00,700
you'll say well the scientists are

3033
01:54:03,780 --> 01:54:02,200
saying that Homo sapiens start three

3034
01:54:05,370 --> 01:54:03,790
hundred thousand years ago like you've

3035
01:54:05,850 --> 01:54:05,380
got a huge gap there mate you know game

3036
01:54:08,610 --> 01:54:05,860
over

3037
01:54:09,810 --> 01:54:08,620
right so we're in a unique period where

3038
01:54:12,209 --> 01:54:09,820
the genetic evidence

3039
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:12,219
he's now saying well no actually it

3040
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:14,800
really does go that far back and it

3041
01:54:18,299 --> 01:54:16,690
really does mesh with these pieces and

3042
01:54:20,430 --> 01:54:18,309
it really does mesh with the time of

3043
01:54:22,350 --> 01:54:20,440
that bombardment and it really does mesh

3044
01:54:24,930 --> 01:54:22,360
with the you know the magnetic reversal

3045
01:54:26,609 --> 01:54:24,940
and even like two years ago that would

3046
01:54:28,529 --> 01:54:26,619
not have added up you would have said no

3047
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:28,539
like hominins you know humans didn't

3048
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:30,489
start then that's an important point to

3049
01:54:33,779 --> 01:54:32,170
make and then when you go into the

3050
01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:33,789
genome right there's a couple of things

3051
01:54:38,580 --> 01:54:36,249
specific things to say like okay has

3052
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:38,590
anyone meddled with us the first thing

3053
01:54:41,759 --> 01:54:40,090
you gone look for the first thing that

3054
01:54:44,279 --> 01:54:41,769
comes up like is the fusion of

3055
01:54:45,359 --> 01:54:44,289
chromosome 2 right most people have

3056
01:54:47,129 --> 01:54:45,369
probably heard what most people in your

3057
01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,139
audience maybe have heard a chromis the

3058
01:54:51,149 --> 01:54:49,360
fusion of chromosome - right it's one of

3059
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:51,159
the things that that separates us from

3060
01:54:56,819 --> 01:54:54,130
primates from other primates ok that we

3061
01:54:58,979 --> 01:54:56,829
have an end-to-end fusion right of - of

3062
01:55:01,199 --> 01:54:58,989
our chromosomes so instead of having 48

3063
01:55:03,479 --> 01:55:01,209
chromosomes we have 46 chromosomes right

3064
01:55:04,799 --> 01:55:03,489
now this is this is well known it's been

3065
01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:04,809
well known for quite a while and some

3066
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:06,729
people have tried to use that as

3067
01:55:10,739 --> 01:55:08,530
evidence suggesting maybe aliens did it

3068
01:55:12,959 --> 01:55:10,749
like it's a more complex argument than

3069
01:55:15,419 --> 01:55:12,969
that because chromosomes can fuse in

3070
01:55:16,799 --> 01:55:15,429
nature like world horses and tame horses

3071
01:55:18,509 --> 01:55:16,809
have a different number of chromosomes

3072
01:55:20,189 --> 01:55:18,519
okay so and they can obviously still

3073
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:20,199
interbreed and so it's not that in

3074
01:55:24,949 --> 01:55:22,719
itself you'd say okay well that's enough

3075
01:55:27,299 --> 01:55:24,959
you know case closed it's like well no

3076
01:55:30,959 --> 01:55:27,309
you have to then see like what did

3077
01:55:33,209 --> 01:55:30,969
anything come of that at that time that

3078
01:55:35,580 --> 01:55:33,219
looks like it positively influenced our

3079
01:55:38,549 --> 01:55:35,590
species and also when did it happen and

3080
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:38,559
like until now nobody has really offered

3081
01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:40,719
a date on that you know there's been

3082
01:55:44,370 --> 01:55:42,639
I've seen people in aliens like kind of

3083
01:55:46,259 --> 01:55:44,380
circle saying well yeah we think you

3084
01:55:48,750 --> 01:55:46,269
know that's when the Anunnaki modified

3085
01:55:50,250 --> 01:55:48,760
humans you know 450,000 years ago and

3086
01:55:52,859 --> 01:55:50,260
they've used it for that argument like

3087
01:55:54,989 --> 01:55:52,869
you can't know either it's because they

3088
01:55:57,299 --> 01:55:54,999
have now understand that chromosome 2

3089
01:56:00,180 --> 01:55:57,309
fusion occurs also in Nanda Falls and

3090
01:56:02,759 --> 01:56:00,190
Denisovans right that immediately pushes

3091
01:56:04,949 --> 01:56:02,769
it back so it has to be again it's

3092
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:04,959
occurred in that shared ancestor and we

3093
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:06,610
know that that shared ancestor goes back

3094
01:56:10,259 --> 01:56:08,590
to at least in that period seven to

3095
01:56:11,310 --> 01:56:10,269
eight hundred thousand years ago so say

3096
01:56:14,549 --> 01:56:11,320
you know you can look at different dates

3097
01:56:16,529 --> 01:56:14,559
but one favored date is around 777 and

3098
01:56:18,509 --> 01:56:16,539
80,000 years ago so you're going to say

3099
01:56:19,919 --> 01:56:18,519
that there's no way it could be 450,000

3100
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:19,929
years ago that's gone all right that's

3101
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:22,570
gone it has to be at the beginning of

3102
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:23,290
the divergence

3103
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:26,110
these different humans now that still

3104
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:29,770
opens up to where was it then or all the

3105
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:32,290
way back to when we diverged from the

3106
01:56:35,970 --> 01:56:33,970
ancestors the chimpanzees you know go

3107
01:56:37,470 --> 01:56:35,980
about like 5 million years ago you know

3108
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:37,480
because that was one theory is maybe it

3109
01:56:41,820 --> 01:56:40,090
fused then and that's why our species

3110
01:56:43,470 --> 01:56:41,830
came about is because of this you know

3111
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:43,480
separating us off from the primates the

3112
01:56:48,210 --> 01:56:46,570
other primates which was a problem but

3113
01:56:50,670 --> 01:56:48,220
then I've measured tracked down a guy a

3114
01:56:52,170 --> 01:56:50,680
scientist in the UK who has looked at

3115
01:56:54,510 --> 01:56:52,180
this and he said well look there is a

3116
01:56:57,660 --> 01:56:54,520
way actually working out there kind of a

3117
01:57:01,410 --> 01:56:57,670
close to maximal age so you have to look

3118
01:57:02,820 --> 01:57:01,420
at the way these the genes at the end

3119
01:57:04,590 --> 01:57:02,830
works at the DNA at the end of these

3120
01:57:06,030 --> 01:57:04,600
chromosomes would usually change when

3121
01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:06,040
they're splitting and dividing because

3122
01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:07,780
they're no longer separate they're kind

3123
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:09,700
of frozen in time and the time when they

3124
01:57:13,980 --> 01:57:12,490
fused so he's he's looked at it a lot to

3125
01:57:15,510 --> 01:57:13,990
pretend that I'm you know I'm not well

3126
01:57:17,580 --> 01:57:15,520
just to put this in the best way perhaps

3127
01:57:19,980 --> 01:57:17,590
but he's looked to see when he feels

3128
01:57:21,810 --> 01:57:19,990
that that stops happening when it fused

3129
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:21,820
when he stopped changing cuz it's no

3130
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:23,410
longer at the ends where things can

3131
01:57:27,590 --> 01:57:25,450
change its fused and he's managed to

3132
01:57:31,140 --> 01:57:27,600
track it down he said somewhere close to

3133
01:57:33,650 --> 01:57:31,150
750,000 years ago right knowing that it

3134
01:57:36,570 --> 01:57:33,660
also has occurred at the beginning of

3135
01:57:39,180 --> 01:57:36,580
Neanderthals and Denisovans and knowing

3136
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:39,190
it must be so close to 750,000 it can't

3137
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:40,570
go back millions of years he said it's

3138
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:42,850
gotta be close to that we now see there

3139
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:44,890
is Garbi within that range again towards

3140
01:57:49,050 --> 01:57:47,530
700 alien begin whenever Denisovans

3141
01:57:50,940 --> 01:57:49,060
Neanderthals Numa split that's when it

3142
01:57:53,090 --> 01:57:50,950
happened that's anomalous in itself

3143
01:57:55,620 --> 01:57:53,100
right because you have this strange

3144
01:57:59,010 --> 01:57:55,630
concordance with the divergence of

3145
01:58:01,800 --> 01:57:59,020
multiple large-brained hominins at the

3146
01:58:03,210 --> 01:58:01,810
time of this fusion alright that's a

3147
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:03,220
starting point and you know the future

3148
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:04,690
is happening at this time again the same

3149
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:06,010
time that's come up on the other stuff

3150
01:58:10,710 --> 01:58:08,410
so we have that and then you should look

3151
01:58:12,930 --> 01:58:10,720
a bit deeper what genes do you see

3152
01:58:15,570 --> 01:58:12,940
changing what's happening why is it that

3153
01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:15,580
we don't have humans with 48 chromosomes

3154
01:58:20,820 --> 01:58:18,760
right at a small population with 46

3155
01:58:22,740 --> 01:58:20,830
chromosomes which you would expect right

3156
01:58:24,540 --> 01:58:22,750
because if you just have this fusion

3157
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:24,550
doesn't really do much just happens

3158
01:58:27,990 --> 01:58:26,320
there happening a couple in one person

3159
01:58:30,750 --> 01:58:28,000
you expect this happening one person and

3160
01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:30,760
then they breed with people right it

3161
01:58:34,740 --> 01:58:32,470
would disappear so even if you assume

3162
01:58:36,690 --> 01:58:34,750
that two people had it you would

3163
01:58:38,130 --> 01:58:36,700
generally expect it to disappear

3164
01:58:39,540 --> 01:58:38,140
right because it goes into the

3165
01:58:41,700 --> 01:58:39,550
background of all those other people

3166
01:58:43,590 --> 01:58:41,710
yeah so that's why usually is anomalies

3167
01:58:46,050 --> 01:58:43,600
just disappear so the scientists say

3168
01:58:48,810 --> 01:58:46,060
we'll look there's two models where that

3169
01:58:51,060 --> 01:58:48,820
might not happen one model is where you

3170
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:51,070
have a very small population is

3171
01:58:55,530 --> 01:58:53,530
ancestral to all living humans that is

3172
01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:55,540
somewhere isolated and and you know

3173
01:59:00,210 --> 01:58:58,330
small numbers and so when this happens

3174
01:59:02,580 --> 01:59:00,220
it manages to spread throughout the

3175
01:59:04,110 --> 01:59:02,590
population now be in Australia if it's a

3176
01:59:06,630 --> 01:59:04,120
small population isolated in Australia

3177
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:06,640
that would answer that yeah to one

3178
01:59:10,650 --> 01:59:08,530
degree but it still says you know you

3179
01:59:12,210 --> 01:59:10,660
still sort of expect there to be two

3180
01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:12,220
populations even if it doesn't just

3181
01:59:16,530 --> 01:59:14,350
completely disappear it's it less of

3182
01:59:20,010 --> 01:59:16,540
course there's some kind of radical

3183
01:59:23,250 --> 01:59:20,020
benefits of the fusion that mean that

3184
01:59:25,650 --> 01:59:23,260
the ones that carry it is so better

3185
01:59:27,630 --> 01:59:25,660
equipped for life that they out-compete

3186
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:27,640
all other human forms on the planet

3187
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:29,410
right but and that they go on to

3188
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:31,090
essentially take over the planet but

3189
01:59:34,020 --> 01:59:32,410
these are two stories where they can say

3190
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:34,030
well we could understand but the most

3191
01:59:39,590 --> 01:59:37,090
likely of those is both that you have a

3192
01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:39,600
certain fusion in a small population

3193
01:59:44,430 --> 01:59:42,190
which brings radical benefits and

3194
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:44,440
somehow there's enough people in the

3195
01:59:49,710 --> 01:59:46,690
same generation carrying the same fusion

3196
01:59:52,050 --> 01:59:49,720
to interbreed and ensure that that

3197
01:59:53,490 --> 01:59:52,060
population goes on to fries now that in

3198
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:53,500
itself is a [\h__\h] weird scenario

3199
01:59:58,620 --> 01:59:55,810
because you don't expect to suddenly

3200
02:00:01,440 --> 01:59:58,630
have multiple breeding pairs carrying a

3201
02:00:03,540 --> 02:00:01,450
rare anomalous positive gene fusion

3202
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:03,550
right and that they then go on take over

3203
02:00:06,990 --> 02:00:05,530
the whole planet so even that in itself

3204
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:07,000
scientists a bit like well it's a

3205
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:08,890
head-scratcher you know and then when

3206
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:11,110
you look closer you find genes like for

3207
02:00:13,410 --> 02:00:12,250
example there's I can't give you the

3208
02:00:15,510 --> 02:00:13,420
name of the gene off the top of my head

3209
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:15,520
I was in the book but there's one gene

3210
02:00:19,740 --> 02:00:17,650
where they found that there's a fragment

3211
02:00:22,980 --> 02:00:19,750
right which is like a hundred letters

3212
02:00:25,050 --> 02:00:22,990
long tiny fragment of a complete gene

3213
02:00:27,170 --> 02:00:25,060
they say it looks almost as if it's

3214
02:00:31,260 --> 02:00:27,180
being cut out of a longer gene

3215
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:31,270
replicated and spliced back in the word

3216
02:00:34,710 --> 02:00:33,010
they used was it looks almost zero oxd

3217
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:34,720
but what a scientist start saying is

3218
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:36,490
like that's pretty frickin anomalous

3219
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:38,560
because they're saying you know there's

3220
02:00:41,490 --> 02:00:40,090
stuff in this gene in these and that

3221
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:41,500
gene sorry is to do with the development

3222
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:44,050
of the neocortex right the most complex

3223
02:00:48,450 --> 02:00:45,850
newest part of the brain which allows

3224
02:00:50,370 --> 02:00:48,460
most the connectivity they also found

3225
02:00:52,620 --> 02:00:50,380
that the fox p2 gene

3226
02:00:56,550 --> 02:00:52,630
which is very much linked to language

3227
02:00:58,709 --> 02:00:56,560
capabilities that there is a one of the

3228
02:01:02,010 --> 02:00:58,719
mutations on the Fox Bijou happens again

3229
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:02,020
just before then and erful Denisov and

3230
02:01:07,020 --> 02:01:04,000
divergence they also carry the Fox p2

3231
02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:07,030
right we have a later mutation which

3232
02:01:10,860 --> 02:01:09,070
means that we probably have an improved

3233
02:01:12,479 --> 02:01:10,870
ability for language production right

3234
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:12,489
over now and for some territories but

3235
02:01:16,050 --> 02:01:14,800
they also carry the form that allows for

3236
02:01:17,970 --> 02:01:16,060
the kind of connectivity that would

3237
02:01:20,459 --> 02:01:17,980
produce language and again he looked at

3238
02:01:22,979 --> 02:01:20,469
and he said this earlier mutation is

3239
02:01:25,229 --> 02:01:22,989
likely in the range of around maybe

3240
02:01:26,459 --> 02:01:25,239
million years got maybes but it seems to

3241
02:01:28,530 --> 02:01:26,469
be happening around the time and all

3242
02:01:30,780 --> 02:01:28,540
these strange changes in humans are

3243
02:01:32,850 --> 02:01:30,790
happening right so we've got genes for

3244
02:01:34,830 --> 02:01:32,860
language genes the neocortex there's

3245
02:01:36,510 --> 02:01:34,840
another gene as they say literally seems

3246
02:01:39,110 --> 02:01:36,520
to come out nowhere straight out of the

3247
02:01:40,890 --> 02:01:39,120
junk DNA fully formed and that allows us

3248
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:40,900
another another boost of

3249
02:01:44,250 --> 02:01:42,610
interconnectivity in the brain I mean

3250
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:44,260
it's a point you look at that you think

3251
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:46,570
what the frak you know because this is

3252
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:48,730
precisely what we'd be looking for if

3253
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:50,290
you want to see that someone is meddling

3254
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:53,050
around trying to upgrade a hominin you

3255
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:54,370
know that they've gone in and sorry even

3256
02:02:00,620 --> 02:01:56,650
the fusion fuses on the site of a gene

3257
02:02:04,919 --> 02:02:00,630
which expresses itself in brains

3258
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:04,929
reproduction and our immune system stuff

3259
02:02:06,959 --> 02:02:06,310
for that yeah right right into the

3260
02:02:09,270 --> 02:02:06,969
middle up

3261
02:02:11,010 --> 02:02:09,280
that's all weird right now you have

3262
02:02:12,959 --> 02:02:11,020
another problem right because you've

3263
02:02:15,180 --> 02:02:12,969
done this it seems like a success story

3264
02:02:18,810 --> 02:02:15,190
but you have a problem right because a

3265
02:02:21,180 --> 02:02:18,820
rapidly growing brain requires a rapidly

3266
02:02:24,149 --> 02:02:21,190
growing head like Carl just have a

3267
02:02:26,490 --> 02:02:24,159
bigger brain same sized skull okay does

3268
02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:26,500
it work that work counts it's gonna hurt

3269
02:02:31,350 --> 02:02:29,620
a lot yeah wait easy you've got to get

3270
02:02:34,229 --> 02:02:31,360
through that same small birth canal

3271
02:02:36,629 --> 02:02:34,239
right that you had that yesterday's kids

3272
02:02:39,870 --> 02:02:36,639
had to go through which has have evolved

3273
02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:39,880
to just allow the head size for the

3274
02:02:44,879 --> 02:02:43,150
average hominin right now that birth

3275
02:02:47,340 --> 02:02:44,889
canal is no bigger tomorrow than it was

3276
02:02:49,290 --> 02:02:47,350
yesterday so so how do you get these

3277
02:02:50,970 --> 02:02:49,300
heads they're going to be rapidly grow

3278
02:02:52,500 --> 02:02:50,980
and bigger over a few generations right

3279
02:02:54,660 --> 02:02:52,510
how do you get them to start coming

3280
02:02:57,330 --> 02:02:54,670
through how they born you're gonna have

3281
02:02:59,340 --> 02:02:57,340
the highest mortality rate for your

3282
02:03:01,590 --> 02:02:59,350
pregnant mothers it's going to be insane

3283
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:01,600
you're basically engineering in an

3284
02:03:04,620 --> 02:03:03,730
extinction event because they can't be

3285
02:03:06,570 --> 02:03:04,630
born you're going to

3286
02:03:08,250 --> 02:03:06,580
kids dying in childbirth taking their

3287
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:08,260
mothers with them because they're you

3288
02:03:12,180 --> 02:03:09,610
can't expect the birth canal just to

3289
02:03:14,460 --> 02:03:12,190
keep up with this rapidly growing head

3290
02:03:17,490 --> 02:03:14,470
size so something really astonishing

3291
02:03:18,780 --> 02:03:17,500
happens around this time right which

3292
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:18,790
answers this this is again I say

3293
02:03:22,770 --> 02:03:20,650
fingerprints to engineers and clever

3294
02:03:24,900 --> 02:03:22,780
engineering is right around this time we

3295
02:03:27,690 --> 02:03:24,910
have a sudden rapid increase and what's

3296
02:03:28,890 --> 02:03:27,700
called neoteny and neoteny is what it's

3297
02:03:30,450 --> 02:03:28,900
a word bow if you haven't heard I

3298
02:03:31,950 --> 02:03:30,460
haven't heard of it a year ago everyone

3299
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:31,960
should know what neoteny is because it's

3300
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:33,370
fundamental to what we are as human

3301
02:03:37,010 --> 02:03:33,970
beings right

3302
02:03:39,810 --> 02:03:37,020
it's the basically it's the moving of

3303
02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:39,820
infant traits further into adulthood

3304
02:03:46,710 --> 02:03:43,540
right so for example a human baby is

3305
02:03:49,710 --> 02:03:46,720
born as a fetus right we are not born as

3306
02:03:51,810 --> 02:03:49,720
a full infant yeah we are born as a

3307
02:03:53,370 --> 02:03:51,820
fetus you know she could you look at

3308
02:03:55,500 --> 02:03:53,380
this so things like the skull fusing

3309
02:03:57,060 --> 02:03:55,510
hasn't even occurred right we can't call

3310
02:03:58,800 --> 02:03:57,070
you and lift their own heads they don't

3311
02:04:00,780 --> 02:03:58,810
walk you know look at them the animals

3312
02:04:02,970 --> 02:04:00,790
up in horses up in a couple hours could

3313
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:02,980
be running right look look how long it

3314
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:05,170
would take for a human baby to do that

3315
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:06,730
because something really clever has

3316
02:04:11,820 --> 02:04:09,210
happened right we come out as a fetus

3317
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:11,830
allowing our head to keep growing a

3318
02:04:16,590 --> 02:04:14,170
rapid pace without affecting the mother

3319
02:04:19,740 --> 02:04:16,600
so by stretching out childhood and that

3320
02:04:21,270 --> 02:04:19,750
infancy it allowed us to be born but

3321
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:21,280
with the potential for our brains

3322
02:04:25,650 --> 02:04:24,010
account rapidly expanding with no need

3323
02:04:28,170 --> 02:04:25,660
for this weird extinction event to come

3324
02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:28,180
up and it brought a whole load of other

3325
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:30,310
things with it because when you have an

3326
02:04:36,150 --> 02:04:34,000
elongated infancy it requires a lot more

3327
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:36,160
parental interaction and a lot more

3328
02:04:40,410 --> 02:04:38,530
support than when you have an animal

3329
02:04:42,990 --> 02:04:40,420
that's born and can literally walk feed

3330
02:04:45,090 --> 02:04:43,000
itself you change the social dynamics of

3331
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:45,100
the species right because suddenly you

3332
02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:48,130
need to have at least a partner who

3333
02:04:52,140 --> 02:04:50,080
shares your view of keeping that baby

3334
02:04:53,250 --> 02:04:52,150
alive for months and months or years you

3335
02:04:54,780 --> 02:04:53,260
know he's not going to be

3336
02:04:56,340 --> 02:04:54,790
self-sufficient a mother on her own

3337
02:04:58,170 --> 02:04:56,350
trying to hunt and gather and look after

3338
02:05:00,330 --> 02:04:58,180
a baby isn't a lot of [\h__\h] especially a

3339
02:05:03,390 --> 02:05:00,340
time when you know you've got but one of

3340
02:05:05,010 --> 02:05:03,400
the biggest like predatory cats in the

3341
02:05:06,180 --> 02:05:05,020
world like in Australia you know and

3342
02:05:07,710 --> 02:05:06,190
anyone on the planet at that time you

3343
02:05:09,870 --> 02:05:07,720
know you got a proper cave bears and

3344
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:09,880
Alijah it's not a time when you really

3345
02:05:12,210 --> 02:05:10,960
want to be a woman on your own holding a

3346
02:05:13,980 --> 02:05:12,220
baby try and get enough food to live

3347
02:05:16,350 --> 02:05:13,990
right so you need at least a partner

3348
02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:16,360
that's still not really enough so you

3349
02:05:20,780 --> 02:05:18,160
start needing your fam

3350
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:20,790
it's complex social you know behavior

3351
02:05:26,730 --> 02:05:23,730
social contracts where you share food

3352
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:26,740
essentially by doing this you're seeding

3353
02:05:31,590 --> 02:05:29,170
that you know communal requirement and

3354
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:31,600
social behavior so they're changing the

3355
02:05:38,910 --> 02:05:35,520
dynamics of a wild species to a tamed

3356
02:05:40,380 --> 02:05:38,920
you know interconnected human species

3357
02:05:41,460 --> 02:05:40,390
there's one lately different dynamics

3358
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:41,470
it's one thing you may not have actually

3359
02:05:47,730 --> 02:05:45,280
considered the the average species and

3360
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:47,740
Lahoma to see humans unfortunately tend

3361
02:05:52,620 --> 02:05:49,210
to do this as well in certain extreme

3362
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:52,630
cases if you've ever heard of parents or

3363
02:05:56,460 --> 02:05:53,650
like a mother who's like let's say

3364
02:05:58,640 --> 02:05:56,470
drowned her kids unfortunately you you

3365
02:06:01,380 --> 02:05:58,650
see very similar behavior with with cats

3366
02:06:02,940 --> 02:06:01,390
you know let's say I've had a friend of

3367
02:06:04,860 --> 02:06:02,950
mine who had a litter a fairly large

3368
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:04,870
litter of kittens you know they they got

3369
02:06:09,330 --> 02:06:06,370
all the kittens out clean them off

3370
02:06:11,310 --> 02:06:09,340
ba-ba-ba-ba he put them all in the box

3371
02:06:12,810 --> 02:06:11,320
and put them you know way in the corner

3372
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:12,820
in the closet and went out to the store

3373
02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:14,320
to go get something came back and you

3374
02:06:19,290 --> 02:06:17,230
know like three three of the kittens had

3375
02:06:21,210 --> 02:06:19,300
been eaten apparently by the mother so

3376
02:06:22,410 --> 02:06:21,220
you know that happens the same thing

3377
02:06:24,510 --> 02:06:22,420
with rats happens the same thing with

3378
02:06:28,850 --> 02:06:24,520
hamsters you know up the line to two

3379
02:06:32,130 --> 02:06:28,860
primates we have a very interesting

3380
02:06:34,500 --> 02:06:32,140
propensity for all species on this

3381
02:06:36,060 --> 02:06:34,510
planet to you know whether there is an

3382
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:36,070
indication by the parent for whatever

3383
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:39,280
reason or whether it's a you know

3384
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:40,090
something that's inherent within

3385
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:43,330
evolution that at some point there is

3386
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:48,010
always that sometimes people make very

3387
02:06:54,660 --> 02:06:52,810
bad decisions or cats things that it was

3388
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:54,670
an outlier in the in the trend you know

3389
02:06:58,440 --> 02:06:56,650
they can Evo's outside the trend and you

3390
02:07:00,060 --> 02:06:58,450
know you don't don't want to you know

3391
02:07:02,460 --> 02:07:00,070
don't do the things the way the others

3392
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:02,470
do it well when I was when my daughter

3393
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:04,090
was just about to be or had just been

3394
02:07:09,530 --> 02:07:06,070
born I think was about a month or so

3395
02:07:12,860 --> 02:07:09,540
after her birth and Laird Scranton who's

3396
02:07:15,090 --> 02:07:12,870
been probably a fan TAS

3397
02:07:16,860 --> 02:07:15,100
influences as far as like early

3398
02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:16,870
fatherhood to me he's also a fantastic

3399
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:19,510
writer some but reasons it's a kid and

3400
02:07:22,650 --> 02:07:21,370
he's to he tell he was telling me his

3401
02:07:24,420 --> 02:07:22,660
experiences cuz it was like two o'clock

3402
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:24,430
in the morning and you know I'm up and

3403
02:07:27,660 --> 02:07:26,110
Claire it's a night owl and he's just

3404
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:27,670
like okay so like this is basically what

3405
02:07:31,470 --> 02:07:29,050
happened you know from from my

3406
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:31,480
experience you know he would go he would

3407
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:33,040
essentially it kind of give me an idea

3408
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:35,110
through through parable of what I was

3409
02:07:38,910 --> 02:07:36,910
going to be expecting and most of its

3410
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:38,920
come true and the most interesting thing

3411
02:07:44,220 --> 02:07:41,530
he said was that interesting thing about

3412
02:07:46,590 --> 02:07:44,230
biology and evolution yes it's like okay

3413
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:46,600
well what is that Laird like kids it's

3414
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:48,610
like you know the babies are made to be

3415
02:07:52,979 --> 02:07:50,800
as adorable as possible at the worst

3416
02:07:54,180 --> 02:07:52,989
often times so that we as humans just

3417
02:07:55,860 --> 02:07:54,190
don't kill because they've done

3418
02:07:57,570 --> 02:07:55,870
something absolutely stupid and they're

3419
02:08:00,810 --> 02:07:57,580
just in that moment the most adorable

3420
02:08:03,450 --> 02:08:00,820
things in the planet and you look at

3421
02:08:05,190 --> 02:08:03,460
kitten risk written about yeah like that

3422
02:08:09,660 --> 02:08:05,200
we have biological cues within ourselves

3423
02:08:11,070 --> 02:08:09,670
within that social dynamic that because

3424
02:08:14,370 --> 02:08:11,080
raising a child like that is very

3425
02:08:17,070 --> 02:08:14,380
difficult so the the evolution has or

3426
02:08:18,810 --> 02:08:17,080
whatever it has brought us has also

3427
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:18,820
encoded within us the ability to have

3428
02:08:21,930 --> 02:08:20,290
that social dynamic as well as have

3429
02:08:25,470 --> 02:08:21,940
those cues so that if something's going

3430
02:08:28,410 --> 02:08:25,480
on that we have a release of hormones

3431
02:08:31,380 --> 02:08:28,420
which essentially stops some of our are

3432
02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:31,390
worse or base animalistic rubra Tilian

3433
02:08:36,150 --> 02:08:33,280
instincts that are still seen in some of

3434
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:36,160
the other species on the planet yes

3435
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:38,800
so we've reinforced those trains as well

3436
02:08:44,070 --> 02:08:41,530
over you know ovary like in breeding

3437
02:08:45,180 --> 02:08:44,080
choices you know that when when the pot

3438
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:45,190
when you're looking for a pond off see

3439
02:08:48,210 --> 02:08:46,330
we've seen it you know they can see that

3440
02:08:51,630 --> 02:08:48,220
neoteny is favored tried in human

3441
02:08:52,650 --> 02:08:51,640
evolution because for example like men

3442
02:08:54,210 --> 02:08:52,660
as you say there's there's things we

3443
02:08:55,979 --> 02:08:54,220
draw to there certain looks expressions

3444
02:08:58,979 --> 02:08:55,989
like that the face of a baby or a child

3445
02:09:01,410 --> 02:08:58,989
like a adult man is more likely to feel

3446
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:01,420
protective over something happening to

3447
02:09:07,470 --> 02:09:03,250
another human that looks like that right

3448
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:07,480
so we've tended to also choose partners

3449
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:08,650
that are more in the optimist there's

3450
02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:09,730
because if we don't even realize to look

3451
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:11,350
for that women are more naughtiness than

3452
02:09:14,610 --> 02:09:12,850
men they look more childlike they have

3453
02:09:15,900 --> 02:09:14,620
features more typical of infants that

3454
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:15,910
also means that women were looking for

3455
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:18,370
men who were drawn to the preserve

3456
02:09:22,740 --> 02:09:20,290
people with neo Tina's features like

3457
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:22,750
children but also women so you'd imagine

3458
02:09:27,660 --> 02:09:25,810
over time you have a feedback loop where

3459
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:27,670
you know it benefits the woman to find a

3460
02:09:31,860 --> 02:09:29,650
man who is naturally feels protective of

3461
02:09:33,780 --> 02:09:31,870
neots and his features which is a child

3462
02:09:35,850 --> 02:09:33,790
has and also the woman hath and all say

3463
02:09:37,290 --> 02:09:35,860
he's then you know they're producing

3464
02:09:38,700 --> 02:09:37,300
offspring that themselves are more in

3465
02:09:40,709 --> 02:09:38,710
the art owners and also have those

3466
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:40,719
traits you know that they are more like

3467
02:09:44,310 --> 02:09:42,880
to protect the child or the woman you

3468
02:09:44,850 --> 02:09:44,320
know so you do get these feedback loops

3469
02:09:46,710 --> 02:09:44,860
where

3470
02:09:48,210 --> 02:09:46,720
you know we may be very different you

3471
02:09:49,650 --> 02:09:48,220
know to how we were like a million years

3472
02:09:51,780 --> 02:09:49,660
ago it may have been that there wasn't

3473
02:09:53,130 --> 02:09:51,790
so much of that you know average care

3474
02:09:55,110 --> 02:09:53,140
and concern for children but that

3475
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:55,120
selectivity means you're more like a

3476
02:09:59,220 --> 02:09:57,040
successful breathing and successful

3477
02:10:01,260 --> 02:09:59,230
raising of the children if you get those

3478
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:01,270
features in you know in the guy and in

3479
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:02,770
the room so see yeah there's always me

3480
02:10:08,130 --> 02:10:04,930
out outliers that don't get but we've

3481
02:10:10,230 --> 02:10:08,140
kind of over time you know been drawn to

3482
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:10,240
those people that are more likely to be

3483
02:10:13,980 --> 02:10:11,770
like that and part of that it's the way

3484
02:10:15,810 --> 02:10:13,990
they look and I said these factors have

3485
02:10:17,460 --> 02:10:15,820
produced what we are today that we have

3486
02:10:20,010 --> 02:10:17,470
people that are more new your teenis

3487
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:20,020
like the Neanderthals are essentially

3488
02:10:23,820 --> 02:10:22,570
not Nautilus right that they're if the

3489
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:23,830
future the main difference between

3490
02:10:29,010 --> 02:10:26,530
Earth's and Neanderthals seems to be a

3491
02:10:31,500 --> 02:10:29,020
lack of neoteny that they they went off

3492
02:10:33,090 --> 02:10:31,510
into the wild right they lived in smoke

3493
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:33,100
we now know they lived in small groups

3494
02:10:37,370 --> 02:10:35,440
probably family groups they didn't take

3495
02:10:39,870 --> 02:10:37,380
much interest in complex social behavior

3496
02:10:41,010 --> 02:10:39,880
they may have traded and stuff we don't

3497
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:41,020
know too much about that there's some

3498
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:42,730
evidence of that but basically they live

3499
02:10:47,190 --> 02:10:45,280
rugged outdoor lives separate off into

3500
02:10:49,980 --> 02:10:47,200
small groups for what you find is they

3501
02:10:51,690 --> 02:10:49,990
look less not earnest and more ape-like

3502
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:51,700
they have the extent the extended brow

3503
02:10:55,410 --> 02:10:53,890
ridges the bigger drawers they have

3504
02:10:57,450 --> 02:10:55,420
things that are more typical of other

3505
02:10:59,370 --> 02:10:57,460
like earlier primates and earlier

3506
02:11:00,930 --> 02:10:59,380
ancestors it's not because there's

3507
02:11:03,180 --> 02:11:00,940
somehow more primitive than us right

3508
02:11:05,250 --> 02:11:03,190
it's because we have chosen a life

3509
02:11:07,650 --> 02:11:05,260
that's more domestic and domestication

3510
02:11:09,690 --> 02:11:07,660
favors not earnest rates whereas that

3511
02:11:12,990 --> 02:11:09,700
outdoor world kind of separated limb

3512
02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:13,000
actually has a physical expression which

3513
02:11:15,870 --> 02:11:14,350
is less than honest it's kind of weird

3514
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:15,880
so you can always say Nanda Falls are

3515
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:18,850
like in a wild version of modern humans

3516
02:11:22,170 --> 02:11:20,770
and we're the tame version and that we

3517
02:11:24,450 --> 02:11:22,180
even see in animals when you tame an

3518
02:11:26,130 --> 02:11:24,460
animal it starts to express its genes

3519
02:11:28,350 --> 02:11:26,140
differently and it will look different

3520
02:11:29,100 --> 02:11:28,360
to the wild version you know a world cat

3521
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:29,110
and a tame cat

3522
02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:30,850
are very similar but they do express

3523
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:32,230
differently you know I don't see the

3524
02:11:34,980 --> 02:11:33,850
behavior is very different so he's quite

3525
02:11:37,170 --> 02:11:34,990
funny that yeah we can see that we've

3526
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:37,180
kind of become a self taming version of

3527
02:11:41,820 --> 02:11:38,320
there and of course it's kind of weird

3528
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:41,830
but and it'll play devil's advocate if

3529
02:11:45,300 --> 02:11:43,210
we're if we're dealing with the

3530
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:45,310
scientific aspect and you know I can

3531
02:11:48,170 --> 02:11:46,810
guarantee they're willing criticisms

3532
02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:48,180
that may come up once a lock is released

3533
02:11:53,670 --> 02:11:50,950
from from some experts who'll say okay

3534
02:11:55,700 --> 02:11:53,680
well they're basing you know you you

3535
02:11:58,540 --> 02:11:55,710
haven't you discussed previously to this

3536
02:12:03,220 --> 02:11:58,550
a lot of the recount

3537
02:12:05,770 --> 02:12:03,230
from either shamanic peoples having

3538
02:12:07,629 --> 02:12:05,780
interactions with with alien beings are

3539
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:07,639
seeing alien beings materialize out of

3540
02:12:13,689 --> 02:12:10,610
balls of light and you're basing this

3541
02:12:15,010 --> 02:12:13,699
off of scientific evidence that we

3542
02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:15,020
currently have of understand at least a

3543
02:12:18,669 --> 02:12:16,130
possibility of understanding of the

3544
02:12:21,330 --> 02:12:18,679
universe as it actually is and at the

3545
02:12:23,439 --> 02:12:21,340
same time you've also impressed upon

3546
02:12:26,830 --> 02:12:23,449
what these aliens potentially could be

3547
02:12:28,930 --> 02:12:26,840
based on scientific evidence the expert

3548
02:12:30,250 --> 02:12:28,940
the opinions of experts who have said

3549
02:12:32,049 --> 02:12:30,260
well this is a possibility that we've

3550
02:12:33,339 --> 02:12:32,059
logically been able to decide at the

3551
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:33,349
same time are still based on that

3552
02:12:36,189 --> 02:12:34,610
evidence off of our own coloring from

3553
02:12:37,959 --> 02:12:36,199
our own experiences from our own culture

3554
02:12:39,580 --> 02:12:37,969
[\h__\h] can be completely different out

3555
02:12:42,010 --> 02:12:39,590
there we could have bug creatures who

3556
02:12:44,549 --> 02:12:42,020
could you know eat small rodents out of

3557
02:12:46,569 --> 02:12:44,559
out of pots or you know giant

3558
02:12:48,729 --> 02:12:46,579
seven-foot-tall homonyms with that

3559
02:12:50,290 --> 02:12:48,739
laughs that it got all the time and yes

3560
02:12:53,799 --> 02:12:50,300
I pronounce that correctly people to see

3561
02:12:56,080 --> 02:12:53,809
know exactly I mean so I don't think

3562
02:12:59,169 --> 02:12:56,090
it's one size fits all well is so Italy

3563
02:13:00,520 --> 02:12:59,179
ideas that we have this one particular

3564
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:00,530
period that you're saying well we have

3565
02:13:04,540 --> 02:13:03,199
some evidence of this potential craft

3566
02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:04,550
based on a claim that was made from a

3567
02:13:10,180 --> 02:13:07,130
book of 2002 thousand two that was

3568
02:13:14,950 --> 02:13:10,190
derived from a channelling episode like

3569
02:13:16,510 --> 02:13:14,960
a channeling incident or okay so we have

3570
02:13:17,470 --> 02:13:16,520
that as and you found scientific

3571
02:13:20,770 --> 02:13:17,480
evidence of that

3572
02:13:22,180 --> 02:13:20,780
anything else based on scientific

3573
02:13:25,149 --> 02:13:22,190
scientific evidence of saying this is

3574
02:13:27,879 --> 02:13:25,159
possible and when it comes to scientific

3575
02:13:29,649 --> 02:13:27,889
research personal accounts can be the

3576
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:29,659
while they're there basically given the

3577
02:13:34,799 --> 02:13:32,210
least amount of credibility because

3578
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:34,809
they're not reproducible it's

3579
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:37,130
essentially saying if a shamans saying I

3580
02:13:40,209 --> 02:13:39,050
saw a ball of being come out of a ball

3581
02:13:44,109 --> 02:13:40,219
of light that was two seven foot tall

3582
02:13:46,899 --> 02:13:44,119
and blue unless the ashes some a body of

3583
02:13:48,549 --> 02:13:46,909
a 7-foot tall alien or something to be

3584
02:13:50,799 --> 02:13:48,559
able to say hey the seven foot tall Ilyn

3585
02:13:53,140 --> 02:13:50,809
was there besides his own his own

3586
02:13:57,129 --> 02:13:53,150
experience the best anybody can say is

3587
02:13:58,479 --> 02:13:57,139
cool story bro and we're at a point in

3588
02:14:00,459 --> 02:13:58,489
time within our society and the reason

3589
02:14:03,970 --> 02:14:00,469
why there is a schism within you

3590
02:14:04,990 --> 02:14:03,980
apologies because I'm gonna get in some

3591
02:14:07,810 --> 02:14:05,000
trouble for this but I don't give a [\h__\h]

3592
02:14:09,819 --> 02:14:07,820
it's not the first time there's a lot of

3593
02:14:11,319 --> 02:14:09,829
UFO tainment out there and there's a

3594
02:14:12,350 --> 02:14:11,329
[\h__\h] ton of people who make tens of

3595
02:14:16,220 --> 02:14:12,360
thousands of dollars

3596
02:14:17,480 --> 02:14:16,230
off of books at conferences who then

3597
02:14:19,250 --> 02:14:17,490
also are speaking at these conferences

3598
02:14:20,510 --> 02:14:19,260
they make tens of their you know several

3599
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:20,520
thousands of dollars off of that

3600
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:23,010
speaking engagement and there is a lot

3601
02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:26,400
of I'm going to say word that I've

3602
02:14:30,590 --> 02:14:28,650
gotten from the inside that most of it

3603
02:14:33,410 --> 02:14:30,600
is basically it's entertainment it's not

3604
02:14:34,520 --> 02:14:33,420
necessarily for information so they're

3605
02:14:37,940 --> 02:14:34,530
going to be people who are going to

3606
02:14:40,190 --> 02:14:37,950
group you into that same group what do

3607
02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:40,200
they want to see because I mean there's

3608
02:14:44,180 --> 02:14:42,090
a point where what do they want to see

3609
02:14:54,910 --> 02:14:44,190
what it is like I can't say that I

3610
02:14:58,130 --> 02:14:54,920
brought captured grey alien in a bomb I

3611
02:15:00,080 --> 02:14:58,140
mean I am limited by what is left from

3612
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:00,090
something that long ago I mean you know

3613
02:15:04,700 --> 02:15:02,730
I can't expect to go necessarily and

3614
02:15:07,370 --> 02:15:04,710
just randomly dig around Australia and

3615
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:07,380
hope to find the remains of of an alien

3616
02:15:11,740 --> 02:15:09,810
from that craft you know even if it does

3617
02:15:14,990 --> 02:15:11,750
exist there isn't anything in that

3618
02:15:17,090 --> 02:15:15,000
narrative that would let me find where

3619
02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:17,100
that was you know and I wouldn't expect

3620
02:15:21,650 --> 02:15:19,770
you to remain after 700,000 years so I

3621
02:15:25,010 --> 02:15:21,660
mean there is a limitation and what can

3622
02:15:28,190 --> 02:15:25,020
be supplied so all I can offer them is

3623
02:15:30,470 --> 02:15:28,200
like a a coherent narrative where you

3624
02:15:34,130 --> 02:15:30,480
know you you have a description of what

3625
02:15:36,980 --> 02:15:34,140
is a complex contact event involving a

3626
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:36,990
great many people perhaps a vast number

3627
02:15:41,150 --> 02:15:39,210
of people across the planet right who

3628
02:15:43,430 --> 02:15:41,160
all have some kind of relation to this

3629
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:43,440
claim you know so I say okay well that's

3630
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:46,050
that's everyone knows about that you

3631
02:15:50,540 --> 02:15:47,490
know that's not new there's something

3632
02:15:51,950 --> 02:15:50,550
strange going on right what the cause of

3633
02:15:54,650 --> 02:15:51,960
that you know all the ins and outs of it

3634
02:15:55,850 --> 02:15:54,660
who knows but we know that for thousands

3635
02:15:57,650 --> 02:15:55,860
of years people have claimed these

3636
02:15:59,960 --> 02:15:57,660
interactions paranormal blah blah blah

3637
02:16:02,870 --> 02:15:59,970
okay so that's covered in the beginning

3638
02:16:05,540 --> 02:16:02,880
I say but there also is a specific claim

3639
02:16:07,570 --> 02:16:05,550
here that these beings know and it's out

3640
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:07,580
there also in that other stuff but also

3641
02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:11,010
well it really can only come from that

3642
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:14,130
claim could only come from the super

3643
02:16:17,900 --> 02:16:15,930
normal phenomena okay

3644
02:16:20,900 --> 02:16:17,910
the claim that we were made by Homo

3645
02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:20,910
sapiens sapiens have an alien ancestry

3646
02:16:26,569 --> 02:16:25,170
right that can only come as a claim from

3647
02:16:28,700 --> 02:16:26,579
super normal phenomena

3648
02:16:30,350 --> 02:16:28,710
because where else would it come from so

3649
02:16:31,399 --> 02:16:30,360
the first thing they have to say is okay

3650
02:16:33,559 --> 02:16:31,409
well if you want me to do this without

3651
02:16:35,959 --> 02:16:33,569
the super normal phenomena there's no

3652
02:16:38,690 --> 02:16:35,969
starting point right because impossible

3653
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:38,700
because nobody alive in the last six

3654
02:16:42,889 --> 02:16:40,050
thousand years been like you know where

3655
02:16:44,929 --> 02:16:42,899
recordings have existed nobody saw that

3656
02:16:46,190 --> 02:16:44,939
happen right because we know her most

3657
02:16:49,009 --> 02:16:46,200
athletes came about seven hundred

3658
02:16:51,650 --> 02:16:49,019
thousand years so like it's not going to

3659
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:51,660
be believable from hieroglyphs it's not

3660
02:16:55,009 --> 02:16:53,130
going to be believable from Sumerian

3661
02:16:56,360 --> 02:16:55,019
Scrolls like what some people say is

3662
02:16:58,339 --> 02:16:56,370
they believe it but they choose to

3663
02:17:00,290 --> 02:16:58,349
believe it right there's no solid

3664
02:17:02,959 --> 02:17:00,300
evidence in there it was just some

3665
02:17:05,629 --> 02:17:02,969
humans expressing their beliefs onto a

3666
02:17:08,209 --> 02:17:05,639
scroll saying that you know we say

3667
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:08,219
aliens made us we say that we were

3668
02:17:12,049 --> 02:17:10,170
slaves or even if it says that you know

3669
02:17:14,299 --> 02:17:12,059
there's that's arguable like so you have

3670
02:17:16,309 --> 02:17:14,309
somebody's interpretation of somebody

3671
02:17:19,610 --> 02:17:16,319
else's interpretation of possible

3672
02:17:21,589 --> 02:17:19,620
speculative events right now most people

3673
02:17:24,559 --> 02:17:21,599
have used that as a jump-off point yeah

3674
02:17:25,969 --> 02:17:24,569
but I don't see that as any stronger in

3675
02:17:27,379 --> 02:17:25,979
particular than the super normal events

3676
02:17:31,370 --> 02:17:27,389
because all you say is well we have a

3677
02:17:32,900 --> 02:17:31,380
scroll yeah okay great but you know do

3678
02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:32,910
we know the guy that wrote it why he

3679
02:17:35,990 --> 02:17:34,530
wrote it what he really saw what he

3680
02:17:37,759 --> 02:17:36,000
wanted to get across or if he even

3681
02:17:39,709 --> 02:17:37,769
wanted us to see it whether it was a

3682
02:17:40,940 --> 02:17:39,719
joke narrative or you know there's a lot

3683
02:17:42,200 --> 02:17:40,950
of problems and that's why scientists

3684
02:17:44,419 --> 02:17:42,210
don't take seriously things like the

3685
02:17:46,610 --> 02:17:44,429
Sumerian said aliens came for that

3686
02:17:49,309 --> 02:17:46,620
reason because what you don't find right

3687
02:17:52,639 --> 02:17:49,319
is engravings or the spaceships yeah

3688
02:17:55,610 --> 02:17:52,649
what you don't find is all the pieces of

3689
02:17:58,520 --> 02:17:55,620
their culture right you don't even find

3690
02:18:01,309 --> 02:17:58,530
all broken toasters or or metal forks or

3691
02:18:04,070 --> 02:18:01,319
you know there is no sign of an advanced

3692
02:18:07,759 --> 02:18:04,080
technological civilization anywhere on

3693
02:18:09,139 --> 02:18:07,769
the planet right before like 6,000 years

3694
02:18:11,330 --> 02:18:09,149
ago or so like you've got some mega

3695
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:11,340
lifts and stuff but like you don't grab

3696
02:18:15,950 --> 02:18:13,439
your archaeology and find things like a

3697
02:18:19,309 --> 02:18:15,960
metal fork and a nicely done china play

3698
02:18:21,679 --> 02:18:19,319
even let alone pieces of bicycles and

3699
02:18:23,419 --> 02:18:21,689
toasters and yeah we're not finding this

3700
02:18:25,219 --> 02:18:23,429
the signs of any past of our

3701
02:18:27,049 --> 02:18:25,229
civilization people say oh but what

3702
02:18:28,280 --> 02:18:27,059
about new parts and what when you look

3703
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:28,290
at those new parts motion they don't

3704
02:18:32,450 --> 02:18:31,050
stand up to like a strong analysis

3705
02:18:34,370 --> 02:18:32,460
you'll say like oh there's a piece of

3706
02:18:36,200 --> 02:18:34,380
coal with a bit metal in it who found it

3707
02:18:38,150 --> 02:18:36,210
how was it found what was the scientists

3708
02:18:39,770 --> 02:18:38,160
analyzed it was it definitely found you

3709
02:18:40,340 --> 02:18:39,780
know objectively or did someone just put

3710
02:18:42,710 --> 02:18:40,350
in a piece of

3711
02:18:45,170 --> 02:18:42,720
and those things crumble really quickly

3712
02:18:47,871 --> 02:18:45,180
right so I'm saying up there I've seen

3713
02:18:50,390 --> 02:18:47,881
no evidence of an advanced technology

3714
02:18:52,701 --> 02:18:50,400
relation between about 6000 years ago

3715
02:18:54,081 --> 02:18:52,711
and this event 700 thousand years ago I

3716
02:18:55,880 --> 02:18:54,091
don't see anything else right

3717
02:18:58,161 --> 02:18:55,890
I'm not saying didn't happen if it did

3718
02:19:00,560 --> 02:18:58,171
though we had the best cleanup crew in

3719
02:19:02,241 --> 02:19:00,570
the universe because you know we're not

3720
02:19:03,980 --> 02:19:02,251
seeing any of that so because there is

3721
02:19:05,991 --> 02:19:03,990
no the jump off point you either go with

3722
02:19:06,860 --> 02:19:06,001
what the Sumerians are Mayans to create

3723
02:19:09,321 --> 02:19:06,870
all these people are saying about

3724
02:19:11,150 --> 02:19:09,331
there's an alien connection and you just

3725
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:11,160
say well we'll take you on faith that

3726
02:19:14,871 --> 02:19:12,810
thousands of thousands of thousands of

3727
02:19:16,550 --> 02:19:14,881
humans like they're not just making this

3728
02:19:18,170 --> 02:19:16,560
[\h__\h] up you know that there's a reason

3729
02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:18,180
why you can go to cultures all around

3730
02:19:21,770 --> 02:19:20,490
the planet and they'll say it's like our

3731
02:19:23,451 --> 02:19:21,780
ancestors came from the Pleiades or

3732
02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:23,461
there was a gate hole to the pleading no

3733
02:19:27,230 --> 02:19:25,110
so you even look at that and say well

3734
02:19:28,970 --> 02:19:27,240
why the [\h__\h] could be saying why all of

3735
02:19:30,621 --> 02:19:28,980
these groups saying it okay it's not

3736
02:19:32,331 --> 02:19:30,631
proof but you can use as a jump-off

3737
02:19:34,430 --> 02:19:32,341
point and say well now let's look for

3738
02:19:37,670 --> 02:19:34,440
some sort of evidence that they came

3739
02:19:39,350 --> 02:19:37,680
within historical period now that's what

3740
02:19:40,880 --> 02:19:39,360
most people have done you know they've

3741
02:19:42,800 --> 02:19:40,890
gone looking at pyramids and they've

3742
02:19:44,331 --> 02:19:42,810
gone looking at scrolls and you know

3743
02:19:47,300 --> 02:19:44,341
they've done their best to find some

3744
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:47,310
objective proof of aliens now is there

3745
02:19:50,421 --> 02:19:48,690
any I mean you know you keep an eye on

3746
02:19:54,470 --> 02:19:50,431
it I mean has anyone really come up

3747
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:54,480
trumps with that I mean I don't think

3748
02:19:57,860 --> 02:19:56,160
that they have well I think there was

3749
02:19:59,031 --> 02:19:57,870
well again the only one would have been

3750
02:20:00,411 --> 02:19:59,041
that piece of aluminum which is

3751
02:20:01,911 --> 02:20:00,421
apparently from the leg of a spacecraft

3752
02:20:03,650 --> 02:20:01,921
but I'm pretty sure that we'd the book

3753
02:20:06,381 --> 02:20:03,660
like all of the parts we actually

3754
02:20:07,640 --> 02:20:06,391
debunked released you debunked them it

3755
02:20:09,291 --> 02:20:07,650
was either in the conversation leading

3756
02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:09,301
up to it or I think it might have been

3757
02:20:13,850 --> 02:20:11,610
on the phone when I was at the computer

3758
02:20:15,201 --> 02:20:13,860
store or it may have actually been

3759
02:20:16,761 --> 02:20:15,211
afterwards but I know some time with

3760
02:20:18,411 --> 02:20:16,771
within that period we did discuss

3761
02:20:19,881 --> 02:20:18,421
extensively the you parts and I know

3762
02:20:23,091 --> 02:20:19,891
that when it came to like I know Bram

3763
02:20:25,341 --> 02:20:23,101
has brought up the the the London hammer

3764
02:20:27,261 --> 02:20:25,351
which I know you discussed as being the

3765
02:20:28,821 --> 02:20:27,271
fast forming like limestone like rock

3766
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:28,831
would essentially encase the hammer and

3767
02:20:32,451 --> 02:20:31,530
it you know yeah it wasn't that old and

3768
02:20:34,730 --> 02:20:32,461
it could have just been dropped there

3769
02:20:36,921 --> 02:20:34,740
and like formed over the the the period

3770
02:20:39,741 --> 02:20:36,931
of a couple of years that's right it's

3771
02:20:41,091 --> 02:20:39,751
explainable so you know for a lot of

3772
02:20:44,180 --> 02:20:41,101
things like then I can I can understand

3773
02:20:45,350 --> 02:20:44,190
for many of the the other new parts that

3774
02:20:47,930 --> 02:20:45,360
are out there some of them may actually

3775
02:20:49,701 --> 02:20:47,940
just lead to ancient civilizations one

3776
02:20:51,411 --> 02:20:49,711
of close Donna's Vegas yeah that's

3777
02:20:53,329 --> 02:20:51,421
probably mattie creaseman yes where is

3778
02:20:55,369 --> 02:20:53,339
all the debris and the

3779
02:20:57,139 --> 02:20:55,379
from those of our civilization it's not

3780
02:20:58,699 --> 02:20:57,149
believable anymore and that's why the

3781
02:20:59,989 --> 02:20:58,709
archaeologists say that we're all pseudo

3782
02:21:01,789 --> 02:20:59,999
archaeologists and that we just making

3783
02:21:03,679 --> 02:21:01,799
things up the reasons they say look no

3784
02:21:07,340 --> 02:21:03,689
matter where we dig and how deep we dig

3785
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:07,350
what we find is stone tools right not

3786
02:21:11,899 --> 02:21:09,810
bits the bicycles not be a toasters not

3787
02:21:14,960 --> 02:21:11,909
being served like you know the car not

3788
02:21:16,279 --> 02:21:14,970
being that there is literally no scrap

3789
02:21:18,409 --> 02:21:16,289
coming out from the holes in the ground

3790
02:21:19,969 --> 02:21:18,419
that's a big problem because look at us

3791
02:21:22,729 --> 02:21:19,979
today as an advanced technological

3792
02:21:24,590 --> 02:21:22,739
civilization look how much crap that we

3793
02:21:26,420 --> 02:21:24,600
produce it's everywhere there's bits of

3794
02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:26,430
plastic everywhere micro plastics the

3795
02:21:30,109 --> 02:21:27,810
sea has got nearly as much plastic is

3796
02:21:31,609 --> 02:21:30,119
fish right there is yeah upper

3797
02:21:33,739 --> 02:21:31,619
atmosphere it's full of swirling bits of

3798
02:21:35,569 --> 02:21:33,749
crap right you can't dig in the ground

3799
02:21:38,569 --> 02:21:35,579
that finding no crisp packets and stuff

3800
02:21:40,189 --> 02:21:38,579
but it's a problem to then say there was

3801
02:21:42,679 --> 02:21:40,199
an equally highly advanced civilization

3802
02:21:45,710 --> 02:21:42,689
on this planet twelve thousand years ago

3803
02:21:48,380 --> 02:21:45,720
also right because there's not a scrap

3804
02:21:50,210 --> 02:21:48,390
of it like not one piece of junk right

3805
02:21:51,829 --> 02:21:50,220
we're not finding that Chris and this is

3806
02:21:53,659 --> 02:21:51,839
probably four years mostly like I said -

3807
02:21:54,949 --> 02:21:53,669
yeah I think there wasn't really a bar

3808
02:21:57,319 --> 02:21:54,959
suppose I said I think that was a

3809
02:21:58,880 --> 02:21:57,329
spiritually advanced and a very sense of

3810
02:22:00,289 --> 02:21:58,890
all civilization twelve thousand years

3811
02:22:02,059 --> 02:22:00,299
ago that was global

3812
02:22:04,460 --> 02:22:02,069
oh don't believe it had any of those

3813
02:22:06,349 --> 02:22:04,470
things that we consider to be highly

3814
02:22:08,210 --> 02:22:06,359
technological in that way they may even

3815
02:22:09,949 --> 02:22:08,220
know about how to use those solar

3816
02:22:12,010 --> 02:22:09,959
energies reflecting them on the pyramid

3817
02:22:14,239 --> 02:22:12,020
and maybe some elements of that and

3818
02:22:15,979 --> 02:22:14,249
consciousness related activities where

3819
02:22:18,260 --> 02:22:15,989
they knew how to access information as a

3820
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:18,270
yeah advanced like that but we're not

3821
02:22:21,769 --> 02:22:20,010
finding old train tracks and stuff we're

3822
02:22:24,829 --> 02:22:21,779
not finding bus mobile phones at some

3823
02:22:26,659 --> 02:22:24,839
point we have to sort of say look we're

3824
02:22:28,219 --> 02:22:26,669
not finding the evidence for that so

3825
02:22:30,170 --> 02:22:28,229
either we have to explain it in an

3826
02:22:32,119 --> 02:22:30,180
extraordinary way that the aliens came

3827
02:22:33,739 --> 02:22:32,129
and cleaned up all the debris

3828
02:22:35,539 --> 02:22:33,749
maybe they did I mean if they can alter

3829
02:22:37,250 --> 02:22:35,549
the fabric of reality but as you've said

3830
02:22:39,979 --> 02:22:37,260
why should we believe that that's an

3831
02:22:42,409 --> 02:22:39,989
extraordinary solution to a really

3832
02:22:44,529 --> 02:22:42,419
mundane problem because the mundane

3833
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:44,539
solution would be that there wasn't that

3834
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,770
civilization and therefore it doesn't

3835
02:22:50,329 --> 02:22:48,720
require an alien cleanup crew or the

3836
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:50,339
background nature of reality to change

3837
02:22:54,409 --> 02:22:52,560
and these extraordinary solutions so the

3838
02:22:55,729 --> 02:22:54,419
same people might say well I believe in

3839
02:22:57,829 --> 02:22:55,739
an H - belies Asian but I don't believe

3840
02:23:00,199 --> 02:22:57,839
in Amos but I could tell you your thing

3841
02:23:02,090 --> 02:23:00,209
is based on just as much [\h__\h] as the

3842
02:23:04,219 --> 02:23:02,100
alien people saying it because unless

3843
02:23:06,559 --> 02:23:04,229
you can pull out a bit of broken toaster

3844
02:23:07,490 --> 02:23:06,569
and six foot down in the ground tell me

3845
02:23:09,530 --> 02:23:07,500
there was a [\h__\h] sea

3846
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:09,540
realization just like ours then you full

3847
02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:11,280
of [\h__\h] me because you can't have it

3848
02:23:14,180 --> 02:23:11,730
both ways

3849
02:23:15,890 --> 02:23:14,190
you can't say or either liar my god

3850
02:23:17,660 --> 02:23:15,900
ufologist guys a [\h__\h] lights got no

3851
02:23:19,850 --> 02:23:17,670
proof but I believe there was an ancient

3852
02:23:22,250 --> 02:23:19,860
civilization that had railroads and cars

3853
02:23:24,530 --> 02:23:22,260
and airplanes and yeah mate ok show me

3854
02:23:26,510 --> 02:23:24,540
your [\h__\h] no you show the cards made

3855
02:23:28,340 --> 02:23:26,520
come on bro you know show your cards

3856
02:23:29,960 --> 02:23:28,350
because I don't think you've got more

3857
02:23:31,910 --> 02:23:29,970
than the ufologist in this

3858
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:31,920
it just sounds more reasonable on face

3859
02:23:36,650 --> 02:23:33,930
of it so maybe there was just a buck

3860
02:23:38,390 --> 02:23:36,660
yeah but the maybes again you know maybe

3861
02:23:39,950 --> 02:23:38,400
there was a grey alien in a base you

3862
02:23:41,450 --> 02:23:39,960
know in the earth I don't see him I

3863
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:41,460
don't know access you know I got no

3864
02:23:46,370 --> 02:23:43,680
special secret access I can't see it

3865
02:23:48,770 --> 02:23:46,380
right so we are very limited I don't

3866
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:48,780
think that there's any good proof for

3867
02:23:53,180 --> 02:23:51,210
advanced human civilization anytime

3868
02:23:55,010 --> 02:23:53,190
before 6000 years ago right there is no

3869
02:23:57,140 --> 02:23:55,020
good evidence they may have had

3870
02:23:59,360 --> 02:23:57,150
extraordinary understandings of space of

3871
02:24:01,250 --> 02:23:59,370
reality they may have had consciousness

3872
02:24:02,510 --> 02:24:01,260
abilities they may have relieved in

3873
02:24:04,130 --> 02:24:02,520
Harley the plan and done piece of

3874
02:24:06,110 --> 02:24:04,140
extraordinary intelligence we're very

3875
02:24:08,090 --> 02:24:06,120
stupid as a culture so when we talk

3876
02:24:09,590 --> 02:24:08,100
about highly advanced civilization we

3877
02:24:12,680 --> 02:24:09,600
might be talking about is a really

3878
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:12,690
intelligent civilization they didn't do

3879
02:24:16,820 --> 02:24:14,610
the things we're doing he didn't feel

3880
02:24:18,980 --> 02:24:16,830
the Seas with Chris packets right it

3881
02:24:21,350 --> 02:24:18,990
didn't app it's a junk everywhere he

3882
02:24:24,340 --> 02:24:21,360
actually found a way to live for a very

3883
02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:24,350
long time without sucking everything up

3884
02:24:28,100 --> 02:24:26,610
mostly going on with each other not

3885
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:28,110
killing each other time enslave another

3886
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:30,330
people to make your junk right that they

3887
02:24:33,860 --> 02:24:32,160
were intelligent in a way that we don't

3888
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:33,870
consider to be intelligent we consider

3889
02:24:39,380 --> 02:24:36,210
it to be backwards right because they

3890
02:24:41,060 --> 02:24:39,390
lasted a very long time happily not

3891
02:24:42,920 --> 02:24:41,070
working nights fighting [\h__\h] they hated

3892
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:42,930
for crap they don't want and fill in

3893
02:24:47,690 --> 02:24:45,690
their C's with junk right that to me was

3894
02:24:49,310 --> 02:24:47,700
an advanced civilization yes I think

3895
02:24:52,190 --> 02:24:49,320
there was an advanced civilization on

3896
02:24:53,630 --> 02:24:52,200
this planet but not a high-tech advanced

3897
02:24:56,180 --> 02:24:53,640
civilization life and matter peoples

3898
02:24:58,730 --> 02:24:56,190
gone really wrong there is no evidence

3899
02:25:00,440 --> 02:24:58,740
of that high-tech and in fact maybe that

3900
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:00,450
high-tech always leads to planetary

3901
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:02,490
destruction we don't know he may be the

3902
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:02,850
lobby

3903
02:25:06,470 --> 02:25:05,280
you know AI wire you know that we become

3904
02:25:07,850 --> 02:25:06,480
AI because because in the end you have

3905
02:25:09,350 --> 02:25:07,860
to transition because you've ruined your

3906
02:25:11,060 --> 02:25:09,360
planet so much it may be that some

3907
02:25:12,770 --> 02:25:11,070
beings out there didn't want to be

3908
02:25:14,630 --> 02:25:12,780
advanced AI but there's a point that

3909
02:25:16,060 --> 02:25:14,640
what do we do we've so [\h__\h] up our

3910
02:25:18,650 --> 02:25:16,070
planet with all our advanced technology

3911
02:25:20,750 --> 02:25:18,660
that the only thing we do now is hide in

3912
02:25:21,230 --> 02:25:20,760
some computer networks there's like this

3913
02:25:23,030 --> 02:25:21,240
car

3914
02:25:25,430 --> 02:25:23,040
consciousness but that may be a

3915
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:25,440
frightening reality of where you go with

3916
02:25:29,421 --> 02:25:27,090
high tech especially good not careful

3917
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:29,431
and like are we going to say that was so

3918
02:25:33,171 --> 02:25:30,960
much more intelligent than say the

3919
02:25:34,580 --> 02:25:33,181
Egyptians who lasted thousands of years

3920
02:25:36,500 --> 02:25:34,590
right doing what they did but they

3921
02:25:37,820 --> 02:25:36,510
helped doing too much more progress in a

3922
02:25:39,051 --> 02:25:37,830
way you didn't get that much more

3923
02:25:41,270 --> 02:25:39,061
high-tech they get some clever stuff

3924
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:41,280
yeah but they weren't flying airplanes

3925
02:25:46,580 --> 02:25:44,730
like people say oh there's one car in it

3926
02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:46,590
one said before he looks a bit like a

3927
02:25:50,091 --> 02:25:48,240
helicopter yeah but we know it ain't a

3928
02:25:51,770 --> 02:25:50,101
helicopter for two reasons one the

3929
02:25:52,190 --> 02:25:51,780
stucco fell off and if you put it back

3930
02:25:53,841 --> 02:25:52,200
on

3931
02:25:54,860 --> 02:25:53,851
he actually shows it makes you know

3932
02:25:56,540 --> 02:25:54,870
someone else wrote it with someone

3933
02:25:58,100 --> 02:25:56,550
else's name and like when you put the

3934
02:25:58,610 --> 02:25:58,110
two bits together yeah you can see how

3935
02:26:01,011 --> 02:25:58,620
it happened

3936
02:26:02,690 --> 02:26:01,021
second thing is I think they're gonna

3937
02:26:04,940 --> 02:26:02,700
imagine that helicopter more than

3938
02:26:08,900 --> 02:26:04,950
[\h__\h] once right like you build

3939
02:26:11,540 --> 02:26:08,910
helicopters bro you're gonna be I'm

3940
02:26:13,940 --> 02:26:11,550
you're gonna be excited like look can

3941
02:26:16,190 --> 02:26:13,950
see I've got a patchy gunship I'm the

3942
02:26:17,870 --> 02:26:16,200
first one I plan I feel it somehow and

3943
02:26:19,430 --> 02:26:17,880
stones and I didn't really have a lot

3944
02:26:19,761 --> 02:26:19,440
you know I didn't have a factory or

3945
02:26:23,030 --> 02:26:19,771
anything

3946
02:26:24,711 --> 02:26:23,040
I built this Apache gunship it's gonna

3947
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:24,721
be a legend you know the legend of the

3948
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:28,290
man it's gonna be written down in every

3949
02:26:32,150 --> 02:26:30,450
temple in Egypt think about combat and

3950
02:26:34,671 --> 02:26:32,160
the [\h__\h] off that's crap remember that

3951
02:26:35,810 --> 02:26:34,681
guy got the Apache guns I think we've

3952
02:26:37,370 --> 02:26:35,820
got a stopping team of thinking he's

3953
02:26:39,500 --> 02:26:37,380
these things when she often people don't

3954
02:26:42,261 --> 02:26:39,510
they say though oh well no maybe it's

3955
02:26:42,530 --> 02:26:42,271
because of what why couldn't be talked

3956
02:26:44,540 --> 02:26:42,540
about

3957
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:44,550
they had a giant conspiracy but the only

3958
02:26:47,690 --> 02:26:46,410
about carp in one corner of one temple

3959
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:47,700
but they couldn't talk about the

3960
02:26:50,511 --> 02:26:49,200
advanced technologies it was telling

3961
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:50,521
them they couldn't we was putting these

3962
02:26:53,810 --> 02:26:52,050
things on excuses but why there's no

3963
02:26:56,211 --> 02:26:53,820
evidence you know we make the excuses in

3964
02:26:58,190 --> 02:26:56,221
the present in those times we have no

3965
02:26:59,570 --> 02:26:58,200
reason to assume that they had advanced

3966
02:27:01,940 --> 02:26:59,580
AG they wouldn't be allowed to talk

3967
02:27:05,330 --> 02:27:01,950
about it why not we talk about it we

3968
02:27:08,930 --> 02:27:05,340
write vast volumes about it I think

3969
02:27:12,250 --> 02:27:08,940
there was actually one fear and trauma

3970
02:27:15,171 --> 02:27:12,260
birth was who it was specifically that's

3971
02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:15,181
there even back then there was a legend

3972
02:27:19,610 --> 02:27:16,730
of great technology or at least a great

3973
02:27:21,801 --> 02:27:19,620
something magic from from the pyramids

3974
02:27:24,110 --> 02:27:21,811
and this pharaoh would actually gone in

3975
02:27:29,080 --> 02:27:24,120
and brought these things out I'm trying

3976
02:27:32,680 --> 02:27:29,090
remember exactly who it was from

3977
02:27:35,140 --> 02:27:32,690
from the past excuse me

3978
02:27:37,060 --> 02:27:35,150
if anybody can I provide that from the

3979
02:27:38,950 --> 02:27:37,070
YouTube chat who may remember the

3980
02:27:42,400 --> 02:27:38,960
specific theorem I know it mean Mabon

3981
02:27:44,921 --> 02:27:42,410
akhenaten I'm not too sure I'll

3982
02:27:47,740 --> 02:27:44,931
hopefully be able to upgrade the the

3983
02:27:49,650 --> 02:27:47,750
notes on this if I do find out but I do

3984
02:27:55,091 --> 02:27:49,660
remember it specifically there was one

3985
02:27:58,180 --> 02:27:55,101
that did go in to retrieve this

3986
02:27:59,711 --> 02:27:58,190
technology but again this is this is

3987
02:28:01,091 --> 02:27:59,721
something that I remembering from

3988
02:28:02,381 --> 02:28:01,101
possibly somewhere else so I could be

3989
02:28:04,390 --> 02:28:02,391
completely wrong and just full of [\h__\h]

3990
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:04,400
at this point on that particular point

3991
02:28:09,730 --> 02:28:08,090
but I think this reference is to very

3992
02:28:11,261 --> 02:28:09,740
advanced understandings and stuff in

3993
02:28:13,180 --> 02:28:11,271
history but all she talked about the

3994
02:28:16,540 --> 02:28:13,190
possibility that they had contacts with

3995
02:28:18,970 --> 02:28:16,550
advanced group of some sort whether

3996
02:28:20,620 --> 02:28:18,980
earth-based or not earth-based you know

3997
02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:20,630
but what we don't really see is evidence

3998
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:22,130
that and that they had devised

3999
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:23,090
understand it's like you've covered

4000
02:28:27,820 --> 02:28:25,130
obviously the pyramid is a complex

4001
02:28:30,011 --> 02:28:27,830
technology and I know you've covered

4002
02:28:31,390 --> 02:28:30,021
before of see it seems to be able to do

4003
02:28:33,400 --> 02:28:31,400
things in harmony with the Earth's

4004
02:28:34,870 --> 02:28:33,410
energies and I think it also seems to

4005
02:28:36,700 --> 02:28:34,880
utilize some of these Schumann

4006
02:28:38,770 --> 02:28:36,710
frequencies and it does all sorts of

4007
02:28:41,350 --> 02:28:38,780
amazing things the way it doesn't have

4008
02:28:42,461 --> 02:28:41,360
is wiring and capacitors you know so

4009
02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:42,471
we're talking about a very different

4010
02:28:47,470 --> 02:28:44,330
kind of understanding of what we've said

4011
02:28:49,810 --> 02:28:47,480
technology or utilizing energies that

4012
02:28:51,070 --> 02:28:49,820
exist you know even as a concave outer

4013
02:28:53,261 --> 02:28:51,080
surface that would be covered in

4014
02:28:55,961 --> 02:28:53,271
limestone it's likely that it reflected

4015
02:28:57,820 --> 02:28:55,971
or refracted light for some purpose you

4016
02:28:59,230 --> 02:28:57,830
know so again these are technologies and

4017
02:29:01,841 --> 02:28:59,240
you can ugly say they're kind of high

4018
02:29:03,400 --> 02:29:01,851
tech but they're not the kind that we're

4019
02:29:05,501 --> 02:29:03,410
going to find you know capacitors and

4020
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:05,511
bits of no it's not a very different

4021
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:08,210
kind of technology and it is still a

4022
02:29:12,700 --> 02:29:11,210
stone technology so you know you sort of

4023
02:29:14,860 --> 02:29:12,710
have to put it in there it's very clever

4024
02:29:18,220 --> 02:29:14,870
Stone Age technology because there is

4025
02:29:20,020 --> 02:29:18,230
only stone evidence for you know well

4026
02:29:25,870 --> 02:29:20,030
that's not to say it's not clever well

4027
02:29:27,520 --> 02:29:25,880
if you believe of all and his last his

4028
02:29:29,080 --> 02:29:27,530
last book and you know again if you've

4029
02:29:31,360 --> 02:29:29,090
watched the episodes with Bauval that we

4030
02:29:33,251 --> 02:29:31,370
had on here I he's claiming that at

4031
02:29:34,660 --> 02:29:33,261
least there's a possibility that the

4032
02:29:37,301 --> 02:29:34,670
pyramid itself I know we're getting way

4033
02:29:39,820 --> 02:29:37,311
off topic but still this no it's it kind

4034
02:29:41,470 --> 02:29:39,830
of fits into that same idea um that the

4035
02:29:42,520 --> 02:29:41,480
pyramid was either a blueprint or like a

4036
02:29:44,680 --> 02:29:42,530
3d printed bloop

4037
02:29:47,410 --> 02:29:44,690
for a very much more complex machine

4038
02:29:51,160 --> 02:29:47,420
which we didn't have the technology then

4039
02:29:52,421 --> 02:29:51,170
to build to do something and it's a very

4040
02:29:55,570 --> 02:29:52,431
good possibility that I could have been

4041
02:29:57,700 --> 02:29:55,580
a something that could either could or

4042
02:30:00,280 --> 02:29:57,710
was meant to say hey you got to figure

4043
02:30:02,080 --> 02:30:00,290
out how to do this and here's how we did

4044
02:30:05,220 --> 02:30:02,090
it here using our tools and our

4045
02:30:07,961 --> 02:30:05,230
technology to essentially send

4046
02:30:09,610 --> 02:30:07,971
somebody's essence somebody's soul

4047
02:30:13,091 --> 02:30:09,620
somebody's consciousness to a particular

4048
02:30:15,280 --> 02:30:13,101
point in Orion's belt

4049
02:30:17,921 --> 02:30:15,290
yeah a problem in itself because all of

4050
02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:17,931
this with the Egyptian say that we gain

4051
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:19,610
this information from off world star

4052
02:30:24,850 --> 02:30:22,250
gods or in fact around the Dogon said

4053
02:30:26,261 --> 02:30:24,860
the same thing in evidence that skara

4054
02:30:28,570 --> 02:30:26,271
brae says the exact same thing

4055
02:30:30,370 --> 02:30:28,580
Laird Scranton's and both of them will

4056
02:30:31,540 --> 02:30:30,380
deny that their work is connected in any

4057
02:30:32,980 --> 02:30:31,550
way shape or form and I've told them

4058
02:30:34,900 --> 02:30:32,990
flat up both like listen I've

4059
02:30:36,580 --> 02:30:34,910
interviewed you on this you said data

4060
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:36,590
interviewed you on this and you said

4061
02:30:41,610 --> 02:30:39,290
buh-buh-buh-buh what you're saying

4062
02:30:43,540 --> 02:30:41,620
correlates with what he's saying

4063
02:30:47,650 --> 02:30:43,550
Laird's work is essentially saying the

4064
02:30:49,631 --> 02:30:47,660
very similar idea of inter-dimensionally

4065
02:30:52,270 --> 02:30:49,641
the the idea of people coming in to come

4066
02:30:54,190 --> 02:30:52,280
coming through portals to to teach and

4067
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:54,200
instruct and it happens over a period of

4068
02:30:57,310 --> 02:30:56,210
time they will take people from

4069
02:30:59,350 --> 02:30:57,320
particular groups and they will

4070
02:31:01,421 --> 02:30:59,360
sequester them and say ok we're gonna

4071
02:31:02,921 --> 02:31:01,431
give you this information and it's

4072
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:02,931
happened with the Dogon has potentially

4073
02:31:06,280 --> 02:31:04,490
happened with you know the people at

4074
02:31:09,070 --> 02:31:06,290
scare break who could have been from yo

4075
02:31:11,290 --> 02:31:09,080
just knows where you know we're going to

4076
02:31:13,631 --> 02:31:11,300
pay for instances so that's the problem

4077
02:31:14,860 --> 02:31:13,641
that in therein lies the problem Chris

4078
02:31:16,421 --> 02:31:14,870
because you're back at your regional

4079
02:31:18,370 --> 02:31:16,431
question like how do we do this without

4080
02:31:20,140 --> 02:31:18,380
all that stupid weirdness you can't

4081
02:31:21,610 --> 02:31:20,150
because every time we look at the

4082
02:31:23,650 --> 02:31:21,620
evidence even about the highest

4083
02:31:25,421 --> 02:31:23,660
technology is ever sits in the past and

4084
02:31:26,501 --> 02:31:25,431
we asked well how did they get there and

4085
02:31:28,810 --> 02:31:26,511
we know all the records say well

4086
02:31:30,520 --> 02:31:28,820
extraterrestrial beings told us you know

4087
02:31:32,140 --> 02:31:30,530
or intruder mention or beings it was

4088
02:31:34,390 --> 02:31:32,150
take me still extraterrestrial they're

4089
02:31:36,100 --> 02:31:34,400
not on our physical world so however you

4090
02:31:39,011 --> 02:31:36,110
look at this you end up back at

4091
02:31:40,751 --> 02:31:39,021
conundrum how do we accept this without

4092
02:31:47,140 --> 02:31:40,761
accepting the supernatural side you

4093
02:31:47,801 --> 02:31:47,150
can't go by the book don't look into the

4094
02:31:49,511 --> 02:31:47,811
subject

4095
02:31:51,370 --> 02:31:49,521
don't wait a time because you will

4096
02:31:53,711 --> 02:31:51,380
always end up back at the intro to

4097
02:31:54,671 --> 02:31:53,721
mention or extraterrestrial problem well

4098
02:31:56,110 --> 02:31:54,681
the problem is is that how do you

4099
02:32:00,130 --> 02:31:56,120
differentiate between what

4100
02:32:02,591 --> 02:32:00,140
is a real legend or folklore versus

4101
02:32:03,940 --> 02:32:02,601
something that's like maybe the shaman

4102
02:32:05,591 --> 02:32:03,950
just like ate the wrong kind of mushroom

4103
02:32:08,020 --> 02:32:05,601
and just got really [\h__\h] up one night

4104
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:08,030
as a man was coming out of the sky I

4105
02:32:12,610 --> 02:32:10,010
swear to God like how many do you have

4106
02:32:13,990 --> 02:32:12,620
five camps get him some water and put

4107
02:32:15,730 --> 02:32:14,000
him to bed he's fine

4108
02:32:18,190 --> 02:32:15,740
you know how do you differentiate

4109
02:32:20,110 --> 02:32:18,200
between those two things well I mean

4110
02:32:21,220 --> 02:32:20,120
experiential is one thing I mean

4111
02:32:22,780 --> 02:32:21,230
obviously you've done he has more

4112
02:32:24,460 --> 02:32:22,790
experiences with that than I do but in

4113
02:32:25,841 --> 02:32:24,470
terms of the evidence I mean really

4114
02:32:27,551 --> 02:32:25,851
there's only two ways and the

4115
02:32:29,620 --> 02:32:27,561
information has to either be useful

4116
02:32:31,350 --> 02:32:29,630
mm-hmm and be able to be applied to

4117
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:31,360
something and he actually has a use

4118
02:32:35,650 --> 02:32:34,010
right or secondly you have to find

4119
02:32:38,410 --> 02:32:35,660
objective evidence like pieces of the

4120
02:32:40,570 --> 02:32:38,420
ship they talked about like the changes

4121
02:32:42,130 --> 02:32:40,580
in the DNA they've talked about that's

4122
02:32:43,390 --> 02:32:42,140
why I'm doing in the book I'm not going

4123
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:43,400
to say that I can just cut off all the

4124
02:32:46,690 --> 02:32:44,930
super weirdness I can't

4125
02:32:49,841 --> 02:32:46,700
but why said is well there should be

4126
02:32:52,330 --> 02:32:49,851
objective physical matching evidence

4127
02:32:54,761 --> 02:32:52,340
that matches the story that is told in

4128
02:32:57,790 --> 02:32:54,771
the supernatural right so if you don't

4129
02:32:59,200 --> 02:32:57,800
have that then you makes it no you say

4130
02:33:01,091 --> 02:32:59,210
how do you know if it's genuine or not

4131
02:33:03,400 --> 02:33:01,101
you can't say it's rubbish but you also

4132
02:33:05,710 --> 02:33:03,410
can't say that it's well supported so

4133
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:05,720
the best you can hope to do is what I've

4134
02:33:09,310 --> 02:33:07,610
done right which is where you then say

4135
02:33:11,410 --> 02:33:09,320
well this is information I didn't get it

4136
02:33:13,120 --> 02:33:11,420
I didn't get it download since someone

4137
02:33:14,770 --> 02:33:13,130
else's book I'm being objective because

4138
02:33:16,360 --> 02:33:14,780
it's not my work you know I'm not saying

4139
02:33:17,920 --> 02:33:16,370
I wrote a book and then I'm going to

4140
02:33:19,660 --> 02:33:17,930
prove it because someone laughed about

4141
02:33:21,130 --> 02:33:19,670
it or something you know someone else

4142
02:33:23,620 --> 02:33:21,140
had that out there for like 20 years or

4143
02:33:25,930 --> 02:33:23,630
whatever and then I looked at how

4144
02:33:29,140 --> 02:33:25,940
they've got it's really complex the

4145
02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:29,150
narrative seems coherent and there's

4146
02:33:32,890 --> 02:33:31,250
events in there which should leave some

4147
02:33:35,140 --> 02:33:32,900
evidence now if I had found no evidence

4148
02:33:36,730 --> 02:33:35,150
at all grace there wouldn't be a book to

4149
02:33:38,500 --> 02:33:36,740
talk about that would be as simple as

4150
02:33:40,480 --> 02:33:38,510
that I would say look I've gone through

4151
02:33:43,180 --> 02:33:40,490
it there's no signs that humans were

4152
02:33:44,710 --> 02:33:43,190
modified there's no bits of a [\h__\h] you

4153
02:33:47,110 --> 02:33:44,720
know this meteorite bombardment didn't

4154
02:33:49,570 --> 02:33:47,120
happen you know I was just four is a

4155
02:33:51,551 --> 02:33:49,580
waste of my time in it I can write in my

4156
02:33:54,250 --> 02:33:51,561
next into America book and I would just

4157
02:33:55,630 --> 02:33:54,260
be in this a message so I think you have

4158
02:33:57,551 --> 02:33:55,640
to choose one of those two objective is

4159
02:33:59,770 --> 02:33:57,561
either the information has an objective

4160
02:34:02,140 --> 02:33:59,780
use and was used he did something useful

4161
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:02,150
by building a pyramid or whatever to do

4162
02:34:06,730 --> 02:34:04,730
stuff or they gave you information and

4163
02:34:07,990 --> 02:34:06,740
although it doesn't in itself is useful

4164
02:34:09,640 --> 02:34:08,000
you can go away and find objective

4165
02:34:11,950 --> 02:34:09,650
evidence that means something to you

4166
02:34:13,960 --> 02:34:11,960
now Daniel I was like like you know

4167
02:34:14,890 --> 02:34:13,970
Daniel I know that you're very like we

4168
02:34:16,030 --> 02:34:14,900
said right it pretty much at the

4169
02:34:17,860 --> 02:34:16,040
beginning and I was probably right

4170
02:34:19,091 --> 02:34:17,870
before we got on the air that you said

4171
02:34:22,030 --> 02:34:19,101
you're a very shy person and I can

4172
02:34:24,820 --> 02:34:22,040
understand that so I want to know from

4173
02:34:25,960 --> 02:34:24,830
from you who the work is based on and

4174
02:34:28,720 --> 02:34:25,970
and from your own experiences which

4175
02:34:30,700 --> 02:34:28,730
inspired the the start of your husband's

4176
02:34:33,880 --> 02:34:30,710
research to to get this entire thing

4177
02:34:38,591 --> 02:34:33,890
going from when that happens you said it

4178
02:34:42,820 --> 02:34:38,601
lasted about a year has what experiences

4179
02:34:46,841 --> 02:34:42,830
have you had whether in in dream format

4180
02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:46,851
or like has anything happened since the

4181
02:34:51,790 --> 02:34:49,930
start of the work on the book and

4182
02:34:52,330 --> 02:34:51,800
anything to be able to say you're on the

4183
02:34:57,160 --> 02:34:52,340
right track

4184
02:35:00,341 --> 02:34:57,170
you know correct here or like something

4185
02:35:02,620 --> 02:35:00,351
something that has told you any extra

4186
02:35:03,850 --> 02:35:02,630
information or has it been that was the

4187
02:35:05,560 --> 02:35:03,860
situation that happened I had the

4188
02:35:08,140 --> 02:35:05,570
experiences over that period of time and

4189
02:35:10,420 --> 02:35:08,150
it's been nothing okay well we've had

4190
02:35:13,091 --> 02:35:10,430
for example Bruce did mention about the

4191
02:35:17,051 --> 02:35:13,101
the underground water network in the

4192
02:35:18,460 --> 02:35:17,061
tunnels underneath the Mayan cities you

4193
02:35:21,430 --> 02:35:18,470
know just recently there was something

4194
02:35:23,620 --> 02:35:21,440
on Egypt about underground what was it

4195
02:35:25,420 --> 02:35:23,630
and I had mentioned that already during

4196
02:35:27,400 --> 02:35:25,430
that time do you remember what that was

4197
02:35:29,830 --> 02:35:27,410
are you just supernormal things I mean

4198
02:35:32,170 --> 02:35:29,840
you had any sort of mention into the et

4199
02:35:34,270 --> 02:35:32,180
type stuff since then or I mean that

4200
02:35:36,070 --> 02:35:34,280
these are kind of shown up groups of

4201
02:35:37,511 --> 02:35:36,080
things that she's experienced but yeah I

4202
02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:37,521
mean you've had things where they've had

4203
02:35:42,430 --> 02:35:39,530
the tree kind of Dreams where platoons

4204
02:35:43,390 --> 02:35:42,440
appeared no yeah and then my experience

4205
02:35:45,460 --> 02:35:43,400
where you felt like you almost were

4206
02:35:48,370 --> 02:35:45,470
gonna go and then it didn't you've tried

4207
02:35:50,770 --> 02:35:48,380
yeah I mean I've had they've tried to

4208
02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:50,780
sort of take me back to that same place

4209
02:35:55,720 --> 02:35:53,930
and started up again I've been really

4210
02:35:58,060 --> 02:35:55,730
resistant to that happening and I've

4211
02:35:59,650 --> 02:35:58,070
told Bruce on a few occasions I feel

4212
02:36:01,330 --> 02:35:59,660
like it's gonna start again I had

4213
02:36:04,420 --> 02:36:01,340
something in December January where I'm

4214
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:04,430
I was told I had a Pakal who was you

4215
02:36:08,860 --> 02:36:06,130
know the leader of the city at that time

4216
02:36:11,440 --> 02:36:08,870
in 7th century Lincoln he said we're not

4217
02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:11,450
finished with you I'm like Bruce I feel

4218
02:36:15,761 --> 02:36:13,210
like you know something's gonna happen

4219
02:36:18,220 --> 02:36:15,771
just little bits and pieces that have

4220
02:36:20,170 --> 02:36:18,230
been happening and just really like from

4221
02:36:21,640 --> 02:36:20,180
the information well obviously it's not

4222
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:21,650
all in the book you know probably we're

4223
02:36:24,309 --> 02:36:22,010
gonna have

4224
02:36:27,070 --> 02:36:24,319
another book just basically specific to

4225
02:36:28,500 --> 02:36:27,080
that because things that were told to me

4226
02:36:31,530 --> 02:36:28,510
there are things that are happening now

4227
02:36:33,700 --> 02:36:31,540
things that are being discovered and

4228
02:36:35,469 --> 02:36:33,710
basically it was just that thing inside

4229
02:36:36,940 --> 02:36:35,479
me I was like okay it's finally time to

4230
02:36:38,650 --> 02:36:36,950
get it out because we have a lot I

4231
02:36:41,050 --> 02:36:38,660
really didn't want to speak too much

4232
02:36:43,900 --> 02:36:41,060
about it I wasn't prepared back then it

4233
02:36:46,330 --> 02:36:43,910
really like it was daunting it was

4234
02:36:48,190 --> 02:36:46,340
harrowing it was tiring it changed me as

4235
02:36:49,719 --> 02:36:48,200
a person my personality changed the way

4236
02:36:51,490 --> 02:36:49,729
I am

4237
02:36:53,740 --> 02:36:51,500
sort of your behavior and people change

4238
02:36:55,630 --> 02:36:53,750
so I like physically for me it was

4239
02:36:57,940 --> 02:36:55,640
something that you know I wouldn't wish

4240
02:37:00,480 --> 02:36:57,950
it on anyone I didn't call for it to

4241
02:37:08,769 --> 02:37:00,490
happen I sort of blame Bruce in a way I

4242
02:37:11,019 --> 02:37:08,779
saw a DDoS predominant in this case

4243
02:37:13,150 --> 02:37:11,029
because I mean had I probably not have

4244
02:37:15,190 --> 02:37:13,160
connected with him physically it may not

4245
02:37:18,250 --> 02:37:15,200
have happened at all so I mean you know

4246
02:37:21,130 --> 02:37:18,260
put it back to that yeah there's been

4247
02:37:22,809 --> 02:37:21,140
bits and pieces you know a lot of time

4248
02:37:24,760 --> 02:37:22,819
has gone past and I've kept very quiet

4249
02:37:26,769 --> 02:37:24,770
about it I don't like to speak too much

4250
02:37:28,059 --> 02:37:26,779
about it but then it was just something

4251
02:37:29,500 --> 02:37:28,069
that prompted me I said Bruce can you

4252
02:37:31,570 --> 02:37:29,510
put what you're doing on hold I think

4253
02:37:33,280 --> 02:37:31,580
it's time to talk about it and then you

4254
02:37:35,170 --> 02:37:33,290
know do this book and then probably

4255
02:37:37,630 --> 02:37:35,180
we're going to have to go back to that

4256
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:37,640
7th century palenque in mexico and just

4257
02:37:40,630 --> 02:37:39,439
get all that information out so we'll

4258
02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:40,640
validate a lot of things that are

4259
02:37:44,530 --> 02:37:42,170
happening and it will also debunk a lot

4260
02:37:46,750 --> 02:37:44,540
of things again is there lie user

4261
02:37:48,490 --> 02:37:46,760
there's a lot of stories out there where

4262
02:37:50,139 --> 02:37:48,500
people are saying you know aliens came

4263
02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:50,149
into their say instrument at their or

4264
02:37:54,429 --> 02:37:52,010
they're doing this engine and I think

4265
02:37:56,559 --> 02:37:54,439
one benefit of this even so it says well

4266
02:37:59,320 --> 02:37:56,569
I don't think you've got absolute proof

4267
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:59,330
which are very few things in science and

4268
02:38:02,320 --> 02:38:01,040
in reality have absolute proof I start

4269
02:38:04,389 --> 02:38:02,330
by saying I think you're looking for

4270
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:04,399
absolute solid punch and proof of

4271
02:38:07,480 --> 02:38:05,930
something that's really hard there's a

4272
02:38:08,889 --> 02:38:07,490
target especially in archaeology and

4273
02:38:10,990 --> 02:38:08,899
anthropology so that when you involve

4274
02:38:12,400 --> 02:38:11,000
humans in something it's really hard to

4275
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:12,410
say you've got to prove what they did

4276
02:38:17,080 --> 02:38:15,200
what they were doing however you know

4277
02:38:19,420 --> 02:38:17,090
what you can see in this work is that

4278
02:38:20,940 --> 02:38:19,430
people should have a higher standard of

4279
02:38:23,139 --> 02:38:20,950
like if you say that their craft

4280
02:38:25,660 --> 02:38:23,149
exploded or landed or whatever you know

4281
02:38:26,650 --> 02:38:25,670
but like if they don't have a piece you

4282
02:38:27,610 --> 02:38:26,660
know they should something like if you

4283
02:38:29,740 --> 02:38:27,620
got a piece or

4284
02:38:32,230 --> 02:38:29,750
know something and that if you say okay

4285
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:32,240
Lian's modified us 400,000 years ago is

4286
02:38:35,020 --> 02:38:33,290
this something that happens in the

4287
02:38:37,600 --> 02:38:35,030
genome 400 thousand years

4288
02:38:39,370 --> 02:38:37,610
yeah where you can say oh yeah I mean at

4289
02:38:42,490 --> 02:38:39,380
least it matches the time you know the

4290
02:38:43,780 --> 02:38:42,500
story or you know you say if they claim

4291
02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:43,790
that there was a nuclear bomb went off

4292
02:38:47,260 --> 02:38:45,410
you know in the Middle East that you can

4293
02:38:49,270 --> 02:38:47,270
find the crater for that nuclear bomb or

4294
02:38:51,220 --> 02:38:49,280
you know I mean that I I think we have

4295
02:38:53,350 --> 02:38:51,230
to at least well be at least calling for

4296
02:38:54,670 --> 02:38:53,360
in that work is that yes you can talk

4297
02:38:56,680 --> 02:38:54,680
about the weird stuff you know that's

4298
02:38:58,990 --> 02:38:56,690
fine that's part of the phenomena but

4299
02:39:00,370 --> 02:38:59,000
you know try and raise the game to where

4300
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:00,380
you know there's actually evidence and

4301
02:39:02,800 --> 02:39:01,850
also people will be able to look and see

4302
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:02,810
because there's a lot of claims about

4303
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:05,600
when humans arose you know and that's a

4304
02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:07,520
big one in the whole subject you know

4305
02:39:12,880 --> 02:39:10,610
I've seen a wildly different dates in

4306
02:39:13,960 --> 02:39:12,890
all different places but you know I

4307
02:39:17,050 --> 02:39:13,970
think people be able to read and they'll

4308
02:39:19,030 --> 02:39:17,060
see that well no Homo sapiens really go

4309
02:39:20,740 --> 02:39:19,040
back to that period around the hundred

4310
02:39:21,730 --> 02:39:20,750
thousand years ago between seven to

4311
02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:21,740
eight hundred thousand years ago there's

4312
02:39:24,610 --> 02:39:23,120
no so getting away from that because

4313
02:39:26,860 --> 02:39:24,620
that's when we're diverged when yonder

4314
02:39:28,930 --> 02:39:26,870
falls and dinosaurs who seem to equally

4315
02:39:30,910 --> 02:39:28,940
intelligent humans to us you know they

4316
02:39:33,580 --> 02:39:30,920
went off made artistic expression and

4317
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:33,590
communication and social structure so we

4318
02:39:38,200 --> 02:39:35,120
can't sort of say that they were kind of

4319
02:39:39,760 --> 02:39:38,210
subhuman retards or so yeah whatever

4320
02:39:41,530 --> 02:39:39,770
happened that made us special made them

4321
02:39:44,410 --> 02:39:41,540
special put it that way so so this story

4322
02:39:46,180 --> 02:39:44,420
has to go back at least to that so so

4323
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:46,190
it's a debunking in a way as well

4324
02:39:51,010 --> 02:39:49,010
because any stories that claim humans

4325
02:39:53,140 --> 02:39:51,020
have been made more recently than that

4326
02:39:55,060 --> 02:39:53,150
the homo sapiens start more recent than

4327
02:39:57,460 --> 02:39:55,070
that they have to up their game because

4328
02:39:59,920 --> 02:39:57,470
where is your genetic evidence you know

4329
02:40:01,510 --> 02:39:59,930
what genes changed you know was there a

4330
02:40:05,290 --> 02:40:01,520
fusion event you know was there

4331
02:40:07,270 --> 02:40:05,300
something tangible in the genome where

4332
02:40:10,150 --> 02:40:07,280
you could say aliens did that or at

4333
02:40:12,430 --> 02:40:10,160
least probably did that because I'm

4334
02:40:14,380 --> 02:40:12,440
saying that so far nobody seems to offer

4335
02:40:16,870 --> 02:40:14,390
that I just hit saying yeah they made us

4336
02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:16,880
as slaves like show me the genes that

4337
02:40:21,820 --> 02:40:20,240
changed when they arrived right because

4338
02:40:24,430 --> 02:40:21,830
if you can't show me that I don't

4339
02:40:25,840 --> 02:40:24,440
believe you right show me some evidence

4340
02:40:26,830 --> 02:40:25,850
if they were here you know that beings

4341
02:40:28,960 --> 02:40:26,840
were here for two hundred thousand years

4342
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:28,970
running our society show me the plates

4343
02:40:33,580 --> 02:40:31,010
they used or something or some beer a

4344
02:40:35,590 --> 02:40:33,590
toaster I don't believe you right yeah

4345
02:40:36,940 --> 02:40:35,600
we've got to raise the game a bit higher

4346
02:40:38,770 --> 02:40:36,950
and I'm not everyone can way to read my

4347
02:40:40,630 --> 02:40:38,780
book believing me right and saying that

4348
02:40:42,250 --> 02:40:40,640
I accept this is strong enough but I

4349
02:40:44,440 --> 02:40:42,260
think they know they would lease a

4350
02:40:46,330 --> 02:40:44,450
washer he brings more to the table than

4351
02:40:47,530 --> 02:40:46,340
most people get people starting to think

4352
02:40:49,120 --> 02:40:47,540
in a different way because

4353
02:40:50,320 --> 02:40:49,130
it's very easy to put information out

4354
02:40:52,990 --> 02:40:50,330
there and do channeling and I've seen a

4355
02:40:55,300 --> 02:40:53,000
lot of like people of ice book doing

4356
02:40:56,950 --> 02:40:55,310
live you know videos and I'm like

4357
02:40:59,261 --> 02:40:56,960
looking at Bruce thinking what the hell

4358
02:41:00,820 --> 02:40:59,271
is going on you know what is that crap

4359
02:41:02,350 --> 02:41:00,830
it's just they're talking and it's doing

4360
02:41:04,030 --> 02:41:02,360
narrative talking for hours about

4361
02:41:05,620 --> 02:41:04,040
nothing giving you nothing saying

4362
02:41:07,960 --> 02:41:05,630
nothing and people are following them

4363
02:41:09,460 --> 02:41:07,970
blindly not asking the right summary

4364
02:41:10,810 --> 02:41:09,470
would be in it the aliens love us

4365
02:41:13,570 --> 02:41:10,820
they're watching us

4366
02:41:15,610 --> 02:41:13,580
bye bye see you next week what else are

4367
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:15,620
you bringing to the table you know so I

4368
02:41:20,860 --> 02:41:17,840
mean you know and yes going back to that

4369
02:41:23,470 --> 02:41:20,870
question that you asked me just now um

4370
02:41:25,570 --> 02:41:23,480
one thing that I found that I did change

4371
02:41:27,580 --> 02:41:25,580
is that the way I work with my psychic

4372
02:41:29,470 --> 02:41:27,590
worker and with my readings and with all

4373
02:41:31,770 --> 02:41:29,480
the stuff that I do based on that it did

4374
02:41:35,261 --> 02:41:31,780
change because it went from being

4375
02:41:36,940 --> 02:41:35,271
intuition to being a form of knowing so

4376
02:41:39,761 --> 02:41:36,950
the information was there and I just had

4377
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:39,771
to access it that's what changed the way

4378
02:41:44,110 --> 02:41:42,170
I see things the way I think and then

4379
02:41:45,970 --> 02:41:44,120
obviously the mediumship just became it

4380
02:41:48,761 --> 02:41:45,980
was like almost like a remote viewing so

4381
02:41:50,640 --> 02:41:48,771
everything from that point from 2012

4382
02:41:53,290 --> 02:41:50,650
onwards the way I was doing my work

4383
02:41:55,540 --> 02:41:53,300
psychically and intuitively it changed

4384
02:41:57,250 --> 02:41:55,550
the dynamic change and it was like I was

4385
02:41:59,200 --> 02:41:57,260
able to access things differently and

4386
02:42:00,730 --> 02:41:59,210
give people information that are

4387
02:42:02,530 --> 02:42:00,740
normally another person that was doing

4388
02:42:04,360 --> 02:42:02,540
some kind of workers make couldn't do

4389
02:42:05,470 --> 02:42:04,370
because I'll give you the fine details I

4390
02:42:07,030 --> 02:42:05,480
would give you the dates I would give

4391
02:42:08,860 --> 02:42:07,040
you the times I would give you other the

4392
02:42:10,570 --> 02:42:08,870
names and other things so it was like

4393
02:42:12,100 --> 02:42:10,580
things that are physically impossible to

4394
02:42:13,390 --> 02:42:12,110
do somebody because mediumship zyk

4395
02:42:14,890 --> 02:42:13,400
example is pretty good the whole point

4396
02:42:17,290 --> 02:42:14,900
of spiritual mediumship right from the

4397
02:42:19,960 --> 02:42:17,300
beginning when it became a thing was the

4398
02:42:22,630 --> 02:42:19,970
idea which was to produce evidence right

4399
02:42:24,100 --> 02:42:22,640
the people survived death yeah okay so

4400
02:42:27,250 --> 02:42:24,110
people should be giving people

4401
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:27,260
information that was privileged you know

4402
02:42:32,620 --> 02:42:30,110
in some way you can't reasonably know it

4403
02:42:34,030 --> 02:42:32,630
you know and giving it to someone so I

4404
02:42:36,011 --> 02:42:34,040
mean it's a similar kind of thing like

4405
02:42:37,810 --> 02:42:36,021
though it studies the same like I'm a

4406
02:42:39,490 --> 02:42:37,820
channel and I can tell you aliens love

4407
02:42:41,470 --> 02:42:39,500
you and they're watching you and stuff

4408
02:42:43,210 --> 02:42:41,480
but they might be tell know that but

4409
02:42:45,340 --> 02:42:43,220
where's the bit where you can say aha

4410
02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:45,350
she just said something she couldn't

4411
02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:47,210
know you know that's not in that's

4412
02:42:48,970 --> 02:42:48,170
probably channeling a lot of time

4413
02:42:50,140 --> 02:42:48,980
there's nothing in it like that

4414
02:42:51,850 --> 02:42:50,150
mediumship is a bit different because

4415
02:42:53,560 --> 02:42:51,860
you have to be able to tell I mean it's

4416
02:42:56,740 --> 02:42:53,570
something like you know your granddad

4417
02:42:58,660 --> 02:42:56,750
look like this or his name was that or

4418
02:43:00,120 --> 02:42:58,670
like you you're holding a watch right

4419
02:43:02,219 --> 02:43:00,130
now then your granddad

4420
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:02,229
or you know something like that where

4421
02:43:07,260 --> 02:43:04,810
you're like aha you know now I think

4422
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:07,270
that she's not just making this crap up

4423
02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:09,760
you know because otherwise you are left

4424
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:10,930
like that and I think that's where in

4425
02:43:13,740 --> 02:43:12,250
the super normal that yeah you are

4426
02:43:15,929 --> 02:43:13,750
looking for those are hard things where

4427
02:43:17,670 --> 02:43:15,939
something validates and again I now go

4428
02:43:19,109 --> 02:43:17,680
back with the book but similar that if

4429
02:43:21,929 --> 02:43:19,119
you get the transmission of weirdness

4430
02:43:24,269 --> 02:43:21,939
that's fine but it should be that you

4431
02:43:26,010 --> 02:43:24,279
can validate at least some details right

4432
02:43:27,899 --> 02:43:26,020
because you get a transmission and like

4433
02:43:30,389 --> 02:43:27,909
we just say your granddad was in the

4434
02:43:34,649 --> 02:43:30,399
army my granddad's and in the army and

4435
02:43:37,019 --> 02:43:34,659
say like World War 2 in it your

4436
02:43:39,330 --> 02:43:37,029
granddaddy smoked a pipe yeah the best

4437
02:43:41,219 --> 02:43:39,340
make up Bob you know and you know you've

4438
02:43:42,719 --> 02:43:41,229
got your checked out I think you've got

4439
02:43:44,880 --> 02:43:42,729
a cancer in your leg and you know young

4440
02:43:46,349 --> 02:43:44,890
a leg problem you know these things that

4441
02:43:48,780 --> 02:43:46,359
you know should be able to stack up

4442
02:43:51,450 --> 02:43:48,790
where you can say well I least I can go

4443
02:43:53,639 --> 02:43:51,460
and check that and find something in it

4444
02:43:55,109 --> 02:43:53,649
which they couldn't really know by

4445
02:43:58,139 --> 02:43:55,119
google searching me you're going on

4446
02:43:59,580 --> 02:43:58,149
Facebook or or whatever and then that is

4447
02:44:02,729 --> 02:43:59,590
what mediumship is all about he's

4448
02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:02,739
offering you evidence of surviving see

4449
02:44:07,410 --> 02:44:05,170
not just telling you stories I have had

4450
02:44:08,670 --> 02:44:07,420
cases where I'm speaking to somebody and

4451
02:44:10,530 --> 02:44:08,680
I'm tuned in and I'm really

4452
02:44:12,510 --> 02:44:10,540
concentrating and I get shown a picture

4453
02:44:14,130 --> 02:44:12,520
and how many people are in the photo and

4454
02:44:15,450 --> 02:44:14,140
that their names were searched and that

4455
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:15,460
they're in you know there's a car and

4456
02:44:18,479 --> 02:44:16,930
you know behind them and it was like

4457
02:44:19,679 --> 02:44:18,489
this and it was like that and the

4458
02:44:21,809 --> 02:44:19,689
pictures black and white and it was

4459
02:44:23,340 --> 02:44:21,819
taking 1945 or whatever you know you got

4460
02:44:24,750 --> 02:44:23,350
to give people things that they can go

4461
02:44:27,630 --> 02:44:24,760
away we can say right she's on track

4462
02:44:30,330 --> 02:44:27,640
we're tuned in nuts I think part of

4463
02:44:32,219 --> 02:44:30,340
becoming into the dimensional because

4464
02:44:35,160 --> 02:44:32,229
you're going back and forwards and you

4465
02:44:37,349 --> 02:44:35,170
don't even know it let's go how the

4466
02:44:39,960 --> 02:44:37,359
research with that phenomena works Chris

4467
02:44:42,719 --> 02:44:39,970
in my view it would never not be a weird

4468
02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:42,729
subject area right like aliens past life

4469
02:44:46,139 --> 02:44:44,170
it's weird right

4470
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:46,149
bogus opposite oh yeah it's just the

4471
02:44:48,240 --> 02:44:47,680
same as been at work night advice it's

4472
02:44:50,399 --> 02:44:48,250
kind of weird

4473
02:44:51,750 --> 02:44:50,409
yes it's about a date some parts of it

4474
02:44:54,389 --> 02:44:51,760
you shouldn't it shouldn't just be

4475
02:44:55,649 --> 02:44:54,399
relied on you're open-minded faith in

4476
02:44:57,899 --> 02:44:55,659
that I'm not a liar

4477
02:44:59,250 --> 02:44:57,909
because like who knows me a lot of

4478
02:45:01,229 --> 02:44:59,260
people that they seem really honest and

4479
02:45:03,809 --> 02:45:01,239
then years later people find out oh you

4480
02:45:05,609 --> 02:45:03,819
know they were making up like 99% of it

4481
02:45:07,559 --> 02:45:05,619
not even scientist you know we know this

4482
02:45:09,960 --> 02:45:07,569
that people built careers on made

4483
02:45:11,580 --> 02:45:09,970
artifacts they made themselves like this

4484
02:45:13,320 --> 02:45:11,590
one can't recently and like esteemed

4485
02:45:15,511 --> 02:45:13,330
scientists you know so we

4486
02:45:17,280 --> 02:45:15,521
hard to say what is really qualified or

4487
02:45:18,780 --> 02:45:17,290
he speaks a good game you know because

4488
02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:18,790
if you can't produce something that

4489
02:45:22,530 --> 02:45:20,290
really supports it we are very careful

4490
02:45:24,540 --> 02:45:22,540
the cult of personality yeah because the

4491
02:45:26,910 --> 02:45:24,550
cult of personality is pretty much

4492
02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:26,920
always mislead humanity that we've

4493
02:45:30,810 --> 02:45:28,570
always look at the leaders we have now

4494
02:45:32,460 --> 02:45:30,820
are we a species that it can be trusted

4495
02:45:32,850 --> 02:45:32,470
to pick out the best and put them to the

4496
02:45:36,270 --> 02:45:32,860
top

4497
02:45:38,250 --> 02:45:36,280
no like fun oh I think all right so so

4498
02:45:40,650 --> 02:45:38,260
we know that uh we know that we're not

4499
02:45:43,980 --> 02:45:40,660
as a species the best at doing why not -

4500
02:45:45,660 --> 02:45:43,990
okay who now has space Jesus and the

4501
02:45:50,340 --> 02:45:45,670
real world has an orange oompa-loompa

4502
02:45:54,080 --> 02:45:50,350
that gives you no no no not doing well

4503
02:45:59,970 --> 02:45:54,090
in that so we have to raise the game of

4504
02:46:01,350 --> 02:45:59,980
creation not just say yeah I believe we

4505
02:46:02,220 --> 02:46:01,360
nice people you could say that I would

4506
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:02,230
you believe us because we're nice people

4507
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:04,090
and we we're friendly and we sleep

4508
02:46:07,830 --> 02:46:06,160
honest but it's not enough so like if I

4509
02:46:09,780 --> 02:46:07,840
told you I believe that story I read in

4510
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:09,790
a book and I you should believe it too

4511
02:46:13,620 --> 02:46:12,250
then you should say like what what the

4512
02:46:15,150 --> 02:46:13,630
[\h__\h] why is even bother I'll just buy

4513
02:46:17,280 --> 02:46:15,160
the other book and see if I can believe

4514
02:46:19,670 --> 02:46:17,290
that you know I mean and just why bother

4515
02:46:21,810 --> 02:46:19,680
so that's all I've brought to it

4516
02:46:23,970 --> 02:46:21,820
objective to tangible evidence that

4517
02:46:26,850 --> 02:46:23,980
supports the story but doesn't

4518
02:46:28,830 --> 02:46:26,860
necessarily absolutely prove it beyond

4519
02:46:30,690 --> 02:46:28,840
any doubt where every skeptic in the

4520
02:46:32,130 --> 02:46:30,700
whole world will accept it though there

4521
02:46:33,301 --> 02:46:32,140
will always be way to challenge it

4522
02:46:35,880 --> 02:46:33,311
because I mean I can see people who've

4523
02:46:38,220 --> 02:46:35,890
reasonably challenged whether the Sun is

4524
02:46:39,840 --> 02:46:38,230
hot inside right you know the electric

4525
02:46:43,350 --> 02:46:39,850
universe people will tell you that is

4526
02:46:45,240 --> 02:46:43,360
actually probably empty and it's a

4527
02:46:46,860 --> 02:46:45,250
plasmas phenomena with the heat on the

4528
02:46:48,210 --> 02:46:46,870
surface and it's not you think might

4529
02:46:49,801 --> 02:46:48,220
actually not told unreasonable you look

4530
02:46:52,950 --> 02:46:49,811
at some of their arguments so things we

4531
02:46:54,810 --> 02:46:52,960
would take absolute you know fixed but

4532
02:46:56,280 --> 02:46:54,820
the Sun is hottest at the core and all

4533
02:46:57,660 --> 02:46:56,290
that you know some of the tourists say

4534
02:46:59,580 --> 02:46:57,670
you know I don't believe you and because

4535
02:47:01,080 --> 02:46:59,590
there's this evidence here and actually

4536
02:47:02,640 --> 02:47:01,090
it seems like it's hot up which is true

4537
02:47:03,450 --> 02:47:02,650
hotter beyond the surface in the

4538
02:47:05,520 --> 02:47:03,460
heliosphere

4539
02:47:07,620 --> 02:47:05,530
why isn't it hotter inside why is it

4540
02:47:10,080 --> 02:47:07,630
black in the holes suggesting it's

4541
02:47:11,790 --> 02:47:10,090
cooler inside now that's a [\h__\h] weird

4542
02:47:13,470 --> 02:47:11,800
problem and that's something that every

4543
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:13,480
wasn't what what what you mean is cooler

4544
02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:15,010
inside the Sun yeah it's cooler those

4545
02:47:18,570 --> 02:47:17,170
black spots they're cooler you know so

4546
02:47:19,830 --> 02:47:18,580
what what the [\h__\h] is that about

4547
02:47:21,690 --> 02:47:19,840
so I mean there's things we take

4548
02:47:22,860 --> 02:47:21,700
absolute sure and fixed there's

4549
02:47:24,420 --> 02:47:22,870
somewhere else which are I said she was

4550
02:47:26,280 --> 02:47:24,430
not proven it's not absolutely but we

4551
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:26,290
haven't sent a satellite into the core

4552
02:47:29,580 --> 02:47:26,800
of the Sun

4553
02:47:32,219 --> 02:47:29,590
messed inmate so with the standard of

4554
02:47:33,719 --> 02:47:32,229
what is proven is really [\h__\h] high

4555
02:47:35,700 --> 02:47:33,729
it's up you know beyond the screen up

4556
02:47:37,380 --> 02:47:35,710
there right so there's very the in

4557
02:47:39,000 --> 02:47:37,390
science itself there's certain areas

4558
02:47:40,290 --> 02:47:39,010
where you can prove things beyond any

4559
02:47:42,030 --> 02:47:40,300
reason was that and there's other areas

4560
02:47:43,770 --> 02:47:42,040
it's really hard particularly your work

4561
02:47:45,599 --> 02:47:43,780
with two sets of physics right the

4562
02:47:47,219 --> 02:47:45,609
physics of the physical objective

4563
02:47:50,190 --> 02:47:47,229
universe and the physics of quantum

4564
02:47:52,559 --> 02:47:50,200
phenomena and they don't mesh completely

4565
02:47:54,360 --> 02:47:52,569
alright so we have a problem so I mean

4566
02:47:57,270 --> 02:47:54,370
we can have a model that looks perfect

4567
02:48:00,150 --> 02:47:57,280
and works perfectly well in one of those

4568
02:48:02,250 --> 02:48:00,160
levels of science right but falls into

4569
02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:02,260
crumbling pieces of crap when you apply

4570
02:48:05,880 --> 02:48:04,270
it to the other one right now that is a

4571
02:48:07,679 --> 02:48:05,890
problem so we don't really understand

4572
02:48:09,420 --> 02:48:07,689
the workings of reality okay so if

4573
02:48:11,309 --> 02:48:09,430
anyone says well you know or sounds

4574
02:48:13,710 --> 02:48:11,319
weird read what the quantum physics is

4575
02:48:15,480 --> 02:48:13,720
saying and see how weird they think is

4576
02:48:18,179 --> 02:48:15,490
because I they said that the top side to

4577
02:48:20,130 --> 02:48:18,189
say anyone who says they understand the

4578
02:48:22,650 --> 02:48:20,140
quantum nature of reality doesn't

4579
02:48:24,719 --> 02:48:22,660
understand quantum physics right and

4580
02:48:26,429 --> 02:48:24,729
that's that's our leading minds telling

4581
02:48:28,679 --> 02:48:26,439
us that nobody understands this stuff

4582
02:48:30,300 --> 02:48:28,689
right he's so weird at the moment that

4583
02:48:31,650 --> 02:48:30,310
we just try and model it with maths and

4584
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:31,660
staff and try to understand what the

4585
02:48:36,389 --> 02:48:34,090
hell is going on in the very fabric of

4586
02:48:38,340 --> 02:48:36,399
our reality right well there's no point

4587
02:48:40,710 --> 02:48:38,350
naught naught naught 1 percent physical

4588
02:48:42,809 --> 02:48:40,720
mass the rest of it is empty so we are

4589
02:48:44,820 --> 02:48:42,819
essentially empty space but we focus on

4590
02:48:47,309 --> 02:48:44,830
the nor point no no no no no no no not 1

4591
02:48:49,950 --> 02:48:47,319
percent which is the physical objective

4592
02:48:52,050 --> 02:48:49,960
right now isn't that a [\h__\h] start

4593
02:48:53,880 --> 02:48:52,060
for science anyway that you take the

4594
02:48:56,280 --> 02:48:53,890
smallest possible component of your

4595
02:48:59,340 --> 02:48:56,290
reality and you make that the absolute

4596
02:49:01,380 --> 02:48:59,350
focal point of importance right if

4597
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:01,390
you're a sensible civilization made one

4598
02:49:04,290 --> 02:49:03,010
of these other ones maybe they didn't

4599
02:49:07,559 --> 02:49:04,300
maybe they said well let's look at the

4600
02:49:09,179 --> 02:49:07,569
other like 99.9999 and then that's why

4601
02:49:11,700 --> 02:49:09,189
they could go through wormholes and

4602
02:49:13,500 --> 02:49:11,710
teleport because they haven't focused on

4603
02:49:15,570 --> 02:49:13,510
this tiny almost in significant

4604
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:15,580
percentage of reality that we've built

4605
02:49:19,740 --> 02:49:17,680
everything around and say well that's

4606
02:49:21,120 --> 02:49:19,750
your Church of reality and they pre said

4607
02:49:22,559 --> 02:49:21,130
well yeah good luck with that you're

4608
02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:22,569
never get off your planet focusing on

4609
02:49:25,950 --> 02:49:24,250
that crap because you know we'll just go

4610
02:49:28,170 --> 02:49:25,960
straight for tunneling straight through

4611
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:28,180
the time-space continuum and doing stuff

4612
02:49:33,090 --> 02:49:30,640
you can't even fathom because you're so

4613
02:49:34,590 --> 02:49:33,100
behind on understanding the very fabric

4614
02:49:36,570 --> 02:49:34,600
of your reality you're still calling it

4615
02:49:38,190 --> 02:49:36,580
paranormal like as though as somehow

4616
02:49:40,060 --> 02:49:38,200
beyond the normal to do these things

4617
02:49:43,030 --> 02:49:40,070
long as you have the idea that

4618
02:49:45,160 --> 02:49:43,040
anything paranormal in existence then

4619
02:49:47,830 --> 02:49:45,170
you just don't get it because paranor

4620
02:49:49,780 --> 02:49:47,840
means beyond normal nothing abnormal can

4621
02:49:52,600 --> 02:49:49,790
happen right everything that really

4622
02:49:55,270 --> 02:49:52,610
genuinely happens is normal phenomena

4623
02:49:56,020 --> 02:49:55,280
it's weird sounding but it's normal

4624
02:49:58,001 --> 02:49:56,030
phenomena

4625
02:49:59,980 --> 02:49:58,011
yeah because nothing can be beyond the

4626
02:50:01,360 --> 02:49:59,990
normal reality okay

4627
02:50:03,150 --> 02:50:01,370
so any one happens always somehow

4628
02:50:05,921 --> 02:50:03,160
different this is paranormal

4629
02:50:08,171 --> 02:50:05,931
there is phenomena this part of a

4630
02:50:09,910 --> 02:50:08,181
reality in which quantum phenomena is

4631
02:50:11,711 --> 02:50:09,920
able to do all these things and we

4632
02:50:13,900 --> 02:50:11,721
should expect things like teleportation

4633
02:50:15,881 --> 02:50:13,910
to work and they do teleport molecules

4634
02:50:18,820 --> 02:50:15,891
we should expect entangle oh it is it's

4635
02:50:20,291 --> 02:50:18,830
entangled objects so look one of the

4636
02:50:21,671 --> 02:50:20,301
prongs of the education level of people

4637
02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:21,681
in general they're not familiar with the

4638
02:50:24,791 --> 02:50:23,690
science right they don't realize that

4639
02:50:26,921 --> 02:50:24,801
the things that sound extraordinarily

4640
02:50:29,051 --> 02:50:26,931
weird and not as that cleave drawn

4641
02:50:30,341 --> 02:50:29,061
anyway they are in a way because it's

4642
02:50:32,860 --> 02:50:30,351
experienced them is still extraordinary

4643
02:50:34,690 --> 02:50:32,870
weird but in terms of what the fabric of

4644
02:50:36,070 --> 02:50:34,700
our reality does with it you know

4645
02:50:38,560 --> 02:50:36,080
changing depending if we're looking at

4646
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:38,570
it or not things like that you know like

4647
02:50:43,211 --> 02:50:40,730
seemingly to be essentially conscious

4648
02:50:45,070 --> 02:50:43,221
and interactive right then you have a

4649
02:50:46,600 --> 02:50:45,080
real fundamental problem if you say well

4650
02:50:50,171 --> 02:50:46,610
let's just take all the weird stuff out

4651
02:50:52,421 --> 02:50:50,181
that 99.999999% of reality just ignore

4652
02:50:54,421 --> 02:50:52,431
it and we'll focus on that little tiny

4653
02:50:56,410 --> 02:50:54,431
you know bit that we call physical so

4654
02:50:58,390 --> 02:50:56,420
those people I'm not going to try and

4655
02:50:59,921 --> 02:50:58,400
convince right there's no hope uh

4656
02:51:01,480 --> 02:50:59,931
politically for me there's no hope with

4657
02:51:02,950 --> 02:51:01,490
those people the books not aimed at them

4658
02:51:06,041 --> 02:51:02,960
I'd ask them please not to bother buying

4659
02:51:08,890 --> 02:51:06,051
it don't waste a time because is not

4660
02:51:10,720 --> 02:51:08,900
just about you know nuts and bolts so

4661
02:51:13,211 --> 02:51:10,730
the best thing for those people is don't

4662
02:51:15,761 --> 02:51:13,221
even buy oh but if you're interested in

4663
02:51:17,051 --> 02:51:15,771
having that looked at in concordance

4664
02:51:20,830 --> 02:51:17,061
with some physical objective evidence

4665
02:51:22,990 --> 02:51:20,840
which helps support that narrative then

4666
02:51:24,820 --> 02:51:23,000
yes take a look at it and also for

4667
02:51:26,860 --> 02:51:24,830
people that's a totally open-minded and

4668
02:51:28,511 --> 02:51:26,870
little I'll believe everything read it

4669
02:51:30,551 --> 02:51:28,521
and take it as a call for better

4670
02:51:31,631 --> 02:51:30,561
evidence in those other categories where

4671
02:51:33,461 --> 02:51:31,641
you're currently not getting any

4672
02:51:35,171 --> 02:51:33,471
evidence and that's where I'd put our

4673
02:51:37,360 --> 02:51:35,181
book it's firmly in the middle of the

4674
02:51:39,490 --> 02:51:37,370
road it's not a science textbook and

4675
02:51:40,900 --> 02:51:39,500
it's not a channeling book you know it's

4676
02:51:42,791 --> 02:51:40,910
going to offer you a bit of the weird

4677
02:51:45,070 --> 02:51:42,801
stuff and some of the church reality

4678
02:51:47,470 --> 02:51:45,080
fused together into a narrative which

4679
02:51:48,791 --> 02:51:47,480
you know I'll stand by at the moment I

4680
02:51:50,350 --> 02:51:48,801
would say that you know the evidence has

4681
02:51:51,970 --> 02:51:50,360
come together in such a way that I'm

4682
02:51:53,870 --> 02:51:51,980
personally convinced they're strong

4683
02:51:56,389 --> 02:51:53,880
enough to say that there was a

4684
02:51:58,400 --> 02:51:56,399
station there was meddling and it

4685
02:52:00,170 --> 02:51:58,410
there's an ongoing contact underway that

4686
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:00,180
that's my stuff I'm not gonna say that

4687
02:52:02,389 --> 02:52:01,770
everyone will come out of it and choke

4688
02:52:04,940 --> 02:52:02,399
me agree

4689
02:52:07,580 --> 02:52:04,950
yeah and that's probably the most kindig

4690
02:52:10,310 --> 02:52:07,590
that's pretty well the best particle to

4691
02:52:11,630 --> 02:52:10,320
two people to end the show as we've got

4692
02:52:13,969 --> 02:52:11,640
about five minutes left on on the

4693
02:52:15,500 --> 02:52:13,979
Spreaker for tonight inside like we

4694
02:52:22,520 --> 02:52:15,510
could probably go all night but if I've

4695
02:52:25,580 --> 02:52:22,530
got a I've got a long drive tomorrow to

4696
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:25,590
to to Prince Edward County so it's I

4697
02:52:31,340 --> 02:52:29,610
know oh my goodness and I want to make

4698
02:52:34,250 --> 02:52:31,350
sure that at least people will go and

4699
02:52:37,370 --> 02:52:34,260
get the book read it make your own lines

4700
02:52:39,650 --> 02:52:37,380
up if if there are claims towards

4701
02:52:40,940 --> 02:52:39,660
evidence and there is evidence that is

4702
02:52:43,100 --> 02:52:40,950
being presented in the book do your

4703
02:52:44,480 --> 02:52:43,110
research do your due diligence use your

4704
02:52:46,639 --> 02:52:44,490
common sense that you use your critical

4705
02:52:48,860 --> 02:52:46,649
thinking and come to your own conclusion

4706
02:52:51,590 --> 02:52:48,870
on it don't accept dismiss it outright

4707
02:52:52,100 --> 02:52:51,600
do not conclude on it or you know all

4708
02:52:54,170 --> 02:52:52,110
right

4709
02:52:55,730 --> 02:52:54,180
and the most important thing is to keep

4710
02:52:59,060 --> 02:52:55,740
your rational minds near what's about

4711
02:53:00,380 --> 02:52:59,070
you and enjoy the at least the fantastic

4712
02:53:01,700 --> 02:53:00,390
narrative because I know with with

4713
02:53:04,850 --> 02:53:01,710
receipts he's gonna pay he's gonna paint

4714
02:53:07,660 --> 02:53:04,860
a good picture of you know a possibility

4715
02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:07,670
it may not be the possibility but it's

4716
02:53:16,370 --> 02:53:10,800
probably the a damn good one and a

4717
02:53:17,960 --> 02:53:16,380
fantastic read so that's no it's if I

4718
02:53:21,170 --> 02:53:17,970
can get those I don't think you you can

4719
02:53:24,380 --> 02:53:21,180
check out the websites and yes while I'm

4720
02:53:25,610 --> 02:53:24,390
queuing up the the music to close of the

4721
02:53:27,860 --> 02:53:25,620
show if you want to be able to give the

4722
02:53:29,600 --> 02:53:27,870
people at home an idea of where they can

4723
02:53:32,420 --> 02:53:29,610
get information on the book as time it

4724
02:53:35,900 --> 02:53:32,430
goes on or the show they're the main

4725
02:53:39,139 --> 02:53:35,910
website for the book is hybrid humans

4726
02:53:40,429 --> 02:53:39,149
net and also we have our own personal

4727
02:53:44,210 --> 02:53:40,439
websites you know if you're interested i

4728
02:53:48,050 --> 02:53:44,220
bruce fenton info and Danny's Daniela

4729
02:53:50,810 --> 02:53:48,060
Cardenas comm which is so obviously for

4730
02:53:52,520 --> 02:53:50,820
intuitive stuff and my other ones got my

4731
02:53:54,500 --> 02:53:52,530
own book projects and stuff on it but

4732
02:53:56,900 --> 02:53:54,510
yeah hybrid humans dotnet is the main

4733
02:53:59,330 --> 02:53:56,910
one and people interested in our tours

4734
02:54:01,340 --> 02:53:59,340
for stuff I also have ancient news net

4735
02:54:03,230 --> 02:54:01,350
that people want to look any of stuff on

4736
02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:03,240
their magazine there so any of those

4737
02:54:07,550 --> 02:54:05,010
websites they kind of follow us for not

4738
02:54:10,010 --> 02:54:07,560
see Facebook they look for hybrid humans

4739
02:54:12,530 --> 02:54:10,020
and they will find a page for that as

4740
02:54:14,090 --> 02:54:12,540
well there will follow us through there

4741
02:54:16,280 --> 02:54:14,100
and I'm open to it you know I'm over two

4742
02:54:18,559 --> 02:54:16,290
questions comments criticisms on those

4743
02:54:20,569 --> 02:54:18,569
pages so people can ask me you know what

4744
02:54:22,069 --> 02:54:20,579
about this what about that steely on the

4745
02:54:23,889 --> 02:54:22,079
Facebook kind of page you know it's a

4746
02:54:26,179 --> 02:54:23,899
good place people want to start you know

4747
02:54:28,099 --> 02:54:26,189
feeding back a bit you know say what

4748
02:54:28,670 --> 02:54:28,109
they find compelling or not you know as

4749
02:54:30,170 --> 02:54:28,680
it goes along

4750
02:54:34,460 --> 02:54:30,180
I believe that W very well but also new

4751
02:54:36,590 --> 02:54:34,470
dawn magazine has an article bias as out

4752
02:54:38,240 --> 02:54:36,600
people want to grab their copy of this

4753
02:54:39,080 --> 02:54:38,250
petition of you dawn which I don't I

4754
02:54:41,809 --> 02:54:39,090
think we've got it ahead of other people

4755
02:54:44,179 --> 02:54:41,819
there's a kind of special on ya UFOs

4756
02:54:45,950 --> 02:54:44,189
aliens and stuff this month so there's

4757
02:54:48,109 --> 02:54:45,960
an article biasing new dawn so you can

4758
02:54:51,219 --> 02:54:48,119
grab that I imagine now or in the next

4759
02:54:53,780 --> 02:54:51,229
few days now introduce you to be subject

4760
02:54:55,069 --> 02:54:53,790
so yeah any of those places and

4761
02:54:56,450 --> 02:54:55,079
obviously I can buy the other book which

4762
02:54:58,189 --> 02:54:56,460
is out and I will just I will clarify

4763
02:55:00,050 --> 02:54:58,199
quickly creator say look you know

4764
02:55:01,819 --> 02:55:00,060
there's just obscene the book we've used

4765
02:55:03,050 --> 02:55:01,829
we haven't gone away and tried to prove

4766
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:03,060
every single thing in there and there's

4767
02:55:07,340 --> 02:55:04,800
a lot of strange stuff we've picked out

4768
02:55:10,130 --> 02:55:07,350
the things that as I said I felt should

4769
02:55:12,319 --> 02:55:10,140
leave objective signatures where I could

4770
02:55:13,519 --> 02:55:12,329
go away and prove it I can't say that

4771
02:55:15,439 --> 02:55:13,529
everything in this works true and I

4772
02:55:18,410 --> 02:55:15,449
can't say that even each person that

4773
02:55:20,090 --> 02:55:18,420
gave your author information was equally

4774
02:55:22,219 --> 02:55:20,100
truthful because you know you to my 20

4775
02:55:24,260 --> 02:55:22,229
to 30 people they gave her information

4776
02:55:26,120 --> 02:55:24,270
now so there may be some things that she

4777
02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:26,130
was told which are not completely

4778
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:27,210
accurate you know I mean so we have to

4779
02:55:30,500 --> 02:55:29,130
give some leeway that hey I can't say

4780
02:55:32,479 --> 02:55:30,510
that I've proven it all and I don't know

4781
02:55:34,069 --> 02:55:32,489
these people like I've only gone away

4782
02:55:37,429 --> 02:55:34,079
and proven what I felt should have had

4783
02:55:38,420 --> 02:55:37,439
objective evidence and that's the best

4784
02:55:42,380 --> 02:55:38,430
way to be able to put it from the man

4785
02:55:44,450 --> 02:55:42,390
himself and like I can't even clarify on

4786
02:55:46,780 --> 02:55:44,460
that that's amazing that's the perfect

4787
02:55:48,530 --> 02:55:46,790
way to be able to say it

4788
02:55:50,569 --> 02:55:48,540
ladies and gentleman next week on the

4789
02:55:53,540 --> 02:55:50,579
show we've got none other than miss

4790
02:55:56,750 --> 02:55:53,550
Laura London returning into the den of

4791
02:56:02,800 --> 02:55:56,760
lore we're gonna be discussing on the

4792
02:56:06,260 --> 02:56:02,810
show archetypes and the hidden ego so

4793
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:06,270
talking with somebody who has a Jungian

4794
02:56:12,050 --> 02:56:08,250
training and it was been interviewing

4795
02:56:13,760 --> 02:56:12,060
the best on speaking of young I if go

4796
02:56:15,800 --> 02:56:13,770
back and watch other episodes this will

4797
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:15,810
be a lot more organized and I swear

4798
02:56:20,179 --> 02:56:17,760
Tyson will not knock the camera over

4799
02:56:20,750 --> 02:56:20,189
this time so thank you very much for

4800
02:56:21,230 --> 02:56:20,760
joining us

4801
02:56:26,120 --> 02:56:21,240
and

4802
02:56:31,380 --> 02:56:26,130
I wish you all a good nights when Hale